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Title: weirdest fish ever
Post by: Ivo on September 26, 2011, 08:25:45 AM
This denizen swam in this morning. The inside is silvered the eyes are blue and it looks like nothing I have ever seen. Any leads?
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: antiquerose123 on September 26, 2011, 09:38:34 AM
?????  ??   ?

Mercury Glass, but older....Victorian, or something ???

Or German  HERE ?? (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Vintage-German-Christmas-Art-Mercury-Glass-Deer-Reindeer-/200655132511?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb7fa575f)
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: Ivo on September 26, 2011, 10:38:56 AM
Yes mercury glass all right, but not the Lausitz lightweight variety nor the double-walled Czech/German/French type. This is a really sturdy 5" long beast, done by an experienced glass worker. The inside is silvered and the mouth is open - the lips are transparent.
It also looks scary  :help:
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 26, 2011, 11:32:10 AM
It's seriously scary - and utterly fabulous, Ivo.
It looks to me as if it might have quite considerable age.
It's actually quite realistic comparing it to of some the fish from very deep waters.
It should be swimming around a massive statue of Neptune/Posidon.

My thoughts as to origin are Murano. Very, very old Murano.
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: Paul S. on September 26, 2011, 11:41:45 AM
I think it's what we (in the U.K.) call 'Whitebait'  -  great as a starter in the restaurant :wsh:
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 26, 2011, 11:55:05 AM
Whitebait is tiny, and it's the starter for "on your marks and off" as far as I'm concerned, Paul.  :24:
I've got a bit of a thing about not wanting to have bones in my mouth and the notion of eating an entire fish, guts, gut contents, bones, brains and eyes, no matter how small, or how well disguised in batter, is not my idea of delicious. :-X

I think it's more like an angler fish without its dangle.
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: Ivo on September 26, 2011, 01:20:25 PM
With a hairdo like that I was expecting someone to come up with mullet...
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 26, 2011, 01:54:43 PM
Mullets are a sore point with me Ivo.  :thud:
My hairdresser refuses to believe that's what I want done, so I don't mention them, just describe where I want short bits and where I want my long bits left alone. I never, ever use the word itself.

Do you think your fish could be very, very ancient at all?
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: Ivo on September 26, 2011, 02:52:48 PM
Relatively yes. On no account will it predate the silvering process which is i think 1880 - but i hav no clue as to which decade this catch might be.
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: Frank on September 26, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
As the mouth is open and you say it is not double layer, could it have been silvered later? Although I guess that is not likely. It works well though.
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: flying free on October 20, 2020, 06:09:57 AM
May be from Verrerie de Goetzenbroek

https://www.pop.culture.gouv.fr/notice/joconde/M0528057853?listResPage=28&mainSearch=%22cristallerie%22&resPage=28&idQuery=%223b038df-8df-5d3-4237-c577c82831%22

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Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: Frank on January 22, 2022, 05:54:59 AM
What a match, well found. I would say highly likely to be the same glassworks but by a different hand.
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 22, 2022, 11:06:16 AM
It's described as a "screwed up".  ;)
I assume this is just a matter of languages translating literally and coming up with something with an unintended meaning.
I presume it means something akin to frigger.  :)
Well done, yet again M.
Title: Re: weirdest fish ever
Post by: flying free on January 22, 2022, 11:59:35 AM
Oops very bad typo though - should read:

Verrerie de Goetzenbruck

 
And here on this link - page 30 - please see some interesting information and history on watch glass makers in Goetzenbruck (says the factory dates back to 1640) - originally called Walter, Berger & Co then in 1854 changed name to Albert Berger & Co.  I wonder if they became the makers of the Lampe Berger?

https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Jewelers_Circular_and_Horological_Re/-nMoAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Goetzenbruck&pg=RA9-PA30&printsec=frontcover

Source - the Jewelers' Circular and Horological Review  - October 4th 1893


In the article dated 1893, which is about the factory making their own glass for the lenses for watchmaking it says they run two furnaces each with 10 melting pots and each pot contains 1000lb of glass :o

It says they employ about 1800 workers and they all own their own houses and gardens and are very happy :)