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Title: French Dove Dish with Acid Etched Mystery Mark
Post by: blake77 on September 29, 2011, 01:27:15 AM

    I'm trying to identify a heavy glass or crystal dove dish I found a few weeks ago. The bird dish measures approximately 10" from beak to tail, 7-1/2" across at widest from wing tip to wing tip and is right at 3" at the tallest point. The back of the dove forms an oval shaped bowl. Here are 2 pictures of the bird dish:
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af294/blake77_photos/doved1.jpg)
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af294/blake77_photos/doved.jpg)
   The bird dish has an acid etched mark on the base consisting of a circle around a cocktail glass which appears to have two C's inside the bowl over the word FRANCE. Here is a picture of the mark:
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af294/blake77_photos/fmark.jpg)
   
  Any help with figuring out the maker would truly be appreciated.

Sincerely, Blake

Title: Re: French Dove Dish with Acid Etched Mystery Mark
Post by: ahremck on September 29, 2011, 11:36:48 PM

I wondered if the CC might stand for (Cristallerie) Christofle - the high end French maker?  Can't confirm but perhaps it might be a start.

Ross

Title: Re: French Dove Dish with Acid Etched Mystery Mark
Post by: Ivo on September 30, 2011, 06:25:36 AM

Sorry no Christofle  but seeing that the item is from the Vannes/ Sevres/ Cristalleries de Champagne stables it might be a mark from CFC, the mother company.

Title: Re: French Dove Dish with Acid Etched Mystery Mark
Post by: blake77 on October 01, 2011, 08:18:06 PM

Dear Ivo & Ross,
                           Thank you both for your replies. Ivo, can you recommend a website or websites where I can find more information about the Vannes/ Sevres/ Cristalleries de Champagne triad, their marks and/or possibly a gallery showing lines with pieces similar to this Dove Dish?
   I'm bouncing all over the web and not finding anything worth calling a decent lead.

Thanks again for your help.

Sincerely, Blake

Title: Re: French Dove Dish with Acid Etched Mystery Mark
Post by: Ivo on October 01, 2011, 08:34:24 PM

May i respectfully suggest google for getting to the various company websites.

Title: Re: French Dove Dish with Acid Etched Mystery Mark
Post by: rosieposie on October 01, 2011, 09:12:34 PM

Hello blake77,  first of all, welcome to The Glass Mesage board. I see you are in USA.
Nice to see such clear pictures and a good sized photo of the acid etched mark.

I have spent quite a time looking through Google since you posted this thread, as I am sure you have, and so far,  like you, am stumped! Most are in French and won't respond to Translation requests

I have tried the Glassmark Lexicon,  but even with my albeit limited knowledge of French, I am unable to find this mark.

Perhaps Ivo will find a little time to come back with a helpful link so that we can continue more productively with the search??

Title: Re: French Dove Dish with Acid Etched Mystery Mark
Post by: Frank on October 01, 2011, 09:56:39 PM

You could try here as it offers English but in general these companies are not well webbified http://www.cristallerie-de-paris.fr/boutique_en_ligne.php

and
http://www.haviland.fr/

Title: Re: French Dove Dish with Acid Etched Mystery Mark
Post by: rosieposie on October 01, 2011, 10:18:32 PM

Hi Blake,  just found this Glassmessages link as well that might help a little??

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,22839.0.html