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Title: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: antiquerose123 on October 13, 2011, 10:47:35 PM
 :hi:

I got this large vase today at an Auction.  No Glow.....but does have a removable green glass Frog inside it.  Looks Art Deco to me and looks like there are 2 Mermaids on the sides.  I thought  they were just ladies, but then I noticed they have *fish tales*.  (http://serve.mysmiley.net/animals/animal0028.gif)   Size is about 8 inches tall.  The top opening is 10 inches by 7 inches wide.  Wear on the bottom. 

Any ideas on age, or maker ??

Thanks as always  :kissy:

Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: flying free on October 13, 2011, 10:55:49 PM
I don't know Rose but that is gorgeous  :hiclp: :hiclp:
I'll have a search around, but I'm sure someone will come along very quickly and be able to say what it is  :)
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Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: flying free on October 13, 2011, 10:57:45 PM
Walther and Sohne Windsor?
will need to check that.
edited to add - have checked and there is a Ref here on Wayne's site
1934 catalogue.
http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/artdeco_glass/walther_glass/waltherglass_home.htm
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Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: antiquerose123 on October 13, 2011, 11:15:19 PM
Walther and Sohne Windsor?
will need to check that.
Ref here on Wayne's site
1934 catalogue.
http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/artdeco_glass/walther_glass/waltherglass_home.htm
m

Boy that was Quick!!  :thup:  Your Good !!!

I saw it at the Auction and wanted it.  I thought it would Glow, but it does not.  I paid a bit more than I wanted to, but then I wanted some Art Deco items here...and 1934 that is old.  Did Wayne's have a frog in them too?  So then it is my first piece of Walther and Sohne!!  According to his site it is called *Windsor*.

Boy, you guys are have such a vast knowledge.....and so Quick!! 

Thanks a Zillion (http://serve.mysmiley.net/jumping/jumping0045.gif) for the speedy reply!!
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: flying free on October 13, 2011, 11:17:47 PM
You're welcome and that is a BIG vase - pretty, I love those mermaids  :sun:
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Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: antiquerose123 on October 13, 2011, 11:25:05 PM
You're welcome and that is a BIG vase - pretty, I love those mermaids  :sun:
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At least they have *some* clothing on...lol.   Yes big vase.  The opening lip width is wider than the vase is tall.   I was now looking around the net with the info you gave for the maker to see if there are ones that Glow.  I found the same mermaids by the same company (in a clock) and that one glows.  I really thought this would glow.......

(http://serve.mysmiley.net/winking/winking0023.gif)  Assumed wrong again!!
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: deco.queen on October 14, 2011, 03:51:25 AM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I LOVE that vase!
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: Anik R on October 14, 2011, 04:11:12 AM
You can see the catalogue image of your vase in pressglas-korrespondenz.  See  here (http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2002-3-2-mb-walther-1936.pdf) 8th page from the end.
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 14, 2011, 06:52:41 AM
The design is 1935ish but they were made for quite a long time and the newer ones don't glow. Here are Pamela's; I'm pretty sure hers is uranium.

Here is a catalogue page from 1952/3 showing your vase. VEB Saschenglas is what Walther became after the war. Yours is likely from them.
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: Anik R on October 14, 2011, 07:55:46 AM
And also in the 1965 VEB catalogue from Pamela's glas-musterbuch site: http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/VEB-Sachsenglas-1965.73.0.html
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 14, 2011, 08:44:04 AM
And this half-asleep author forgot the link to the 1953 catalogue (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Sachsenglas-1953.212+B6YmFja1BJRD0yMTImcHJvZHVjdElEPTg4OTMmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MjEyJmRldGFpbD0_.0.html)
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: angel2 on October 14, 2011, 10:18:26 AM
 :angel: :angel:

Sold pristine one in pink and VERY disappointed with the price achieved. Had to drop price to get interest. Must have listed not nearly as well as I should have done. Posted it off with a very bad grace (buyer doesn't know - they were over the moon unsurprisingly!). Lesson learned but not quite sure what! (Still; fattish profit made so shouldn't grumble ......  changed mind, going to ....    :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:).

angel2
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: Ohio on October 14, 2011, 04:48:10 PM
:angel: :angel:

Sold pristine one in pink and VERY disappointed with the price achieved. Had to drop price to get interest. Must have listed not nearly as well as I should have done. Posted it off with a very bad grace (buyer doesn't know - they were over the moon unsurprisingly!). Lesson learned but not quite sure what! (Still; fattish profit made so shouldn't grumble ......  changed mind, going to ....    :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:).

angel2
For what its worth I had the same situation with a nice one in blue & it was an older one with a ground & polished base as I was informed the later ones did not have the flat ground base. Looks like a million bucks Deco, but interest for some strange reason isn't there...probably because they were reissued later on. Ken
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: Max on October 14, 2011, 05:03:52 PM
I sold a blue one too.  I still regret selling it, I wish I'd kept it.  Nice find Rose.   :cry:
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: antiquerose123 on October 14, 2011, 05:26:16 PM
For what its worth I had the same situation with a nice one in blue & it was an older one with a ground & polished base as I was informed the later ones did not have the flat ground base. Looks like a million bucks Deco, but interest for some strange reason isn't there...probably because they were reissued later on. Ken


Ooooops, guess I should post a bottom pic here.....if that makes any difference

                          (whoops......I do not have one) will take one today.  Thought I had one....will do later. 

Also will take a pic of the frog inside it as I assume that is the correct one for it??  It has some damage to it, but the vase is A-1 Okay!

Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: Nemmie on October 14, 2011, 05:56:10 PM
For what its worth I had the same situation with a nice one in blue & it was an older one with a ground & polished base as I was informed the later ones did not have the flat ground base. Looks like a million bucks Deco, but interest for some strange reason isn't there...probably because they were reissued later on. Ken

Not sure about that logic as most of the Walther pieces were reissued and yet a lot of them consistently fetch very high prices. Personally this is one of my favourite Walther pieces but I don't own one (yet).
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: Leni on October 14, 2011, 06:33:32 PM
will take a pic of the frog inside it as I assume that is the correct one for it??  It has some damage to it, but the vase is A-1 Okay!

The oval 'frog' for this vase is the same one as for the Schmetterling and the Greta vases.  They are generally a 'good enough' fit, so I have no doubt yours is right  :) 

It's a beauty!  Well done!   :hiclp: 
Title: Re: Art Deco Vase + 2 Mermaids (I think) ??
Post by: Ohio on October 14, 2011, 06:37:01 PM
Well it just might be a U.S. deal because Deco glass (non-lamp) is just so-so over here. Now Deco metal and/or glass lamps is another story entirely in the U.S. as they are in high demand & are relatively numerous. Frankart, NuArt & just about any older Deco lamp move very well. Ken