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Title: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: dorian_graye on October 16, 2011, 04:26:18 PM
Hello to all.  I found this pitcher at an antique shop with a tag that just stated it as "Danish Style Pitcher".  I've never seen one like it before, so I purchased it in hopes that someone in the forum might be able to identify it.  I thought perhaps it might be Whitefriars or Nuutajarvi.  Of course, I might be way off.  The rim on the pitcher has been polished and the base has a clear glass casing.  It measures 11" inches tall.  Thank you for your help in advance.

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Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 17, 2011, 06:39:22 AM
It's not Whitefriars for a start
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: Ivo on October 17, 2011, 07:09:09 AM
I'd rather think in the direction of Wiesenthalhütte or Hirschberg - I doubt if any scandinavian would bring a pitcher on the market that cannot be cleaned at all.
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: Anik R on October 17, 2011, 07:34:11 AM
Polish designers of the 60s and 70s were also fond of these 'waisted' and uncleanable designs.  :)
The first is an example by Stefan Sadowski
http://www.stefan-sadowski.pl/galeria_e.html <-----Mod: hover mouse over image to see the grid then look at 3rd row, 2nd item see also book Ceramika i Szkło Polskie XX Wieku, Wrocław 2004.

The second by Krzysztof Meckier - see book Szkło Wrocławskie, Wrocław 1970.

Mod: Anik's images from in-copyright publications replaced with online link and book refs after discussion with Anik
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: dorian_graye on October 17, 2011, 10:36:02 AM
I was completely unaware of Polish designers.  Thank you for those examples.  Don't these Scandinavian designs appear "uncleanable"?  I'm surprised such a statement like that would be made in a forum with so much experience. No, these are not "pitchers", but don't vases need cleaned also?

Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 17, 2011, 10:57:10 AM
Vases are often simply ornaments rather than for flowers. Pitchers one would expect to be used. Designers do not always consider the practicalities of the things they create.
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: dorian_graye on October 17, 2011, 11:12:42 AM
"Designers do not always consider the practicalities of the things they create."  Well, than they would not be very good designers.  A good designer would consider all possibilities.  That seems to be a problem with modern design.  Fashion before function, I guess.
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 17, 2011, 11:17:03 AM
I don't think it's a modern problem particularly or typical of all designers, just a fact of life.
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: Paul S. on October 17, 2011, 11:50:36 AM
the comment that these things are uncleanable, has been largely invalidated in recent times with the advent of 'Magic Balls'.    Small pots of these copper coated balls - which are sold specifically for cleaning decanters and vases - may be used with or without a liquid additive (i.e. metal polish) - and can achieve very good results.     I would, however, agree that there remains a small percentage of glass pieces that, either due to glass make up, or chemicals in the water, will defy improvement by this method, in view of the 'damage' that has occurred to the glass.      If it is just a matter of cleaning, then these copper balls should do the trick :)
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 17, 2011, 12:23:28 PM
I think Anik was thinking more of the washing up...
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: Anik R on October 17, 2011, 01:14:09 PM
Christine's right... I was thinking about the washing up. :)    
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: Paul S. on October 17, 2011, 03:29:23 PM
huh! - ganging up on me now eh!!  :cry:
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: Ivo on October 17, 2011, 04:37:04 PM
I'm confused. Are you conducting one discussion from 2 accounts?
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: chriscooper on October 17, 2011, 06:12:43 PM
Tell me about it  :sun: pretty sure  designers never gave a thought about trying to clean them out later.
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https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Fqqh_ovnqyU/TjBGwFwxLNI/AAAAAAAAPQw/_DnKbOCAgrQ/s512/SDC15245.JPG
Chris
Title: Re: MODERN AMETHYST GLASS WAISTED PITCHER VASE=ID HELP?
Post by: Paul S. on October 17, 2011, 06:15:12 PM
hello Ivo - and apologies if you consider the thread has seemed to side track :).      My input was concerned with what I thought had been an incorrect statement - however, the ladies now tell me that my understanding of this statement was wrong, so the fault was mine alone :hj: