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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Baked_Beans on October 30, 2011, 08:48:22 AM
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This jug is 15cm tall and has a neat ground and polished pontil mark to the base with lots of wear. There are the remains of an interesting guilded pattern around the neck/rim . I would be very interested to know the maker and a date if possible. Thanks very much for having a look. Ta Mike.
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Hi Mike i believe that pattern is known as Vermicelli . Other than that zilch .
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Reminds me of these Moser pieces, although others may have made similar:
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/28588-moser-spatter-enameled-glass?in=user
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Ta John & Wayne,
I thought it might be from the Stourbridge area because of the ribbed handle . Similar in style to handles found on some Cranberry jugs. Thanks for the Moser link , I will do some more digging , Ta Mike.
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Hi, just to show I have read my borrowed book, at least a little ;D, I remember that pattern was also referred to as Vermicular (page 113 CH British Glass 1800-1914)
edited - and that handle is called a 'Dab handle' which was the new method of applying a handle from the bottom up and introduced according to the above book, at Richardson and Son at least,( but not suggesting your jug is Richardson) in about 1867. The pattern of the handle is called the Shell pattern which was patented by Thomas W. Webb in 1867 (again not suggesting your jug is by Thomas W. Webb , but merely adding some info). From another thread I believe patents ran for 20 years so this could have been used after 1887 by anyone (and quite possibly before 1887, if the patent wasn't adhered to I guess - open to correction on all this ;D).
m
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Cheers M ,
Very interesting, especially about the handle .
In my dictionary of glass its description of vermicular is....."...... said to suggest the appearance of having been eaten by worms or having been covered by their tracks...." :sm:
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Having a patent and enforcing it are two different things, especially if the idea is copied in a different country (the Lillicrap hone is a good example of good design patenting, as it was registered in at least 7 countries). Also subtle differences may make a "copy" possible. The gilding and the colour point to a possible Bohemian origin to me, so I'm with Wayne. Late 19th, early 20th century. What colour does it glow under a UV light?
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Hi Christine , thanks very much !
My UV light has gone missing so I will let you know when I get another one. I didn't think about the possibility of Bohemia so I should have posted this in the Glass section. It's the handle that threw me.
Ta Mike.
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the dimples or pinched design also remind me of Bohemian pieces, although I don't know if that feature was common in all countries at that time to be honest.
m
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I have a little uv light now and the 'lemon curd' yellow goes light ,bright green . Thanks for the pointers , I will take it as being most likely from Bohemia around c1900 . Cheers, Mike. :fwr:
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Interesting. It doesn't usually. It mostly goes orange. That means uranium but I no wiser as to who.