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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: goyjus on November 06, 2011, 12:45:54 PM
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I think this piece is blue and white swirls.
The reason I'm asking for a second opinion is that it has, what I'd describe as, a lumpy/irregular smooth/polished pontil.
Definitely not a coachbolt or a flame.
Does this give any indication of date? There's a lot of age-related scratching to the base too...
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A picture of the base would really help..... :thup:
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Yep. Sorry. Here's two. Cheers Sue
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:spls:
Unfortunately once it's a flat pic on the screen I really can't tell what on earth the surface might look like - it just looks completely smooth with colours to me.
Can you try taking a pic from an angle, so any lumps or dips show via reflections?
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Just about to head out. But will try again later.
The thing is, there's not a lot to focus on. It's just kind of an irregular blob.
The second pic is probably the better one - the blob just above the centre of the pic...
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Sounds as if it's maybe been a broken pontil-mark - heat-finished to make it smooth.
Not without the realms of possibility for early IoWSG.
Attenuated bottles tend to have broken pontil marks - the coach-bolt pontil mark was quite literally just that. There happened to be a coach-bolt lying around the old buildings where the studio took up residence (with alterations, obviously!), and it just happened to be there when Michael Harris was looking around for something to stick in the base. So he picked it up and stuck it into a blob of glasss over the broken mark.
Things were experimental in the early days - things there are still experimental - they're always trying to push new boundaries forwards.
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Sounds about right to me, Sue.
I was hoping I might find a signature amongst the usage scratches on the base if I looked for long enough... I didn't
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That does not look like blue and white swirls to me. How big is it and does the rim have a blue trail around it?
To my eye, there is too much white in your vase and the blue is not right either, I would expect it to be concentrated into thin bands that criss cross around the vase.
This is the only photo I have of this blue and white swirls globe vase at the moment.
John
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Thanks for this, John.
Will check on the points you mention this evening.
But, if memory serves, the piece is about 5in high. From the photo, it doesn't appear to have a blue trail around it. The colour 'bleeds' vertically down the rim. Is this significant?
Is it possible the piece is a second? Might that explain the colour/design discrepancies and the unusual base?
It is an Isle of Wight shape, right?
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Could just be a variation in what is simply an experimental "range" in the first place.
There is blue around the rim, and the bleeding effect is one I've seen in some pink and blue swirls pieces.
And I've seen Tortoiseshell with tight brown bands and with wide, diffuse and bubbly brown bands....
;D
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Many thanks for this, Sue.
I expect it's quite difficult to account for all variations. As you say, it was an experimental range, so applying hard and fast rules must be a bit slippery.
The signed bottle I have appears to be quite different again. Link below for reference.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64422401@N06/5872905433/in/photostream
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This shape is not exclusive to IoWSG. It may well have been made at another glassworks, there are many possibilities.
Some photos showing in detail the patterning may be useful.
If you are going to the National you could bring it along for a prod and a poke....
John
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I will post some more pictures. Will probably have to wait until the weekend now though. I'm at work all day so won't have an opportunity until then to take pics in natural light.
I would have very much like to have come to the National. But, unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make it.
Hope to come to the next one. Is it only once a year? And would you recommend the Cambridge Glass Fair - or any others - if my interest is more in 20th Century glass?
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Anthony, both fairs have a wide variety of all types of glass, I would recommend either. I see your located in London, both 'Reflect' at Kensington and Dulwich Glass and Ceramics fairs are also well worth visits. Although visiting a few of these can make a dent in the pocket!
:sun:
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Cheers for this, Greg.
I'll definitely check these out - there's no charge for window shopping. Will just have to hope temptation doesn't get the better of me.
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There are two Nationals each year (May and November) and I think two Cambridge glass fairs too but I have yet to make it to Cambridge. They come highly recommended. :rah:
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Great stuff. Cheers, John. Will keep a look out for the one in May then. I'm sure they will be an education!