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Title: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: CultureVulture on November 30, 2011, 07:30:49 PM
Please can anyone help me id this signature its on the base of a 3.5kg cut crystal vase. From a distance it looks like either an M or W depending which way is up. Closer up its segmented. Unsure cant find it anywhere else.

thankyou
Title: Re: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: chriscooper on November 30, 2011, 07:54:18 PM
Are you looking from the right side? looks like it wants flipping over and it's NR maybe?

Chris
Title: Re: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: antiquerose123 on December 01, 2011, 08:20:23 AM
Are you looking from the right side? looks like it wants flipping over and it's NR maybe?

Chris

Ditto by me too. 

What does the image look from outside, as taking a pic inside the vase....if that is possible.  Also a pic of the whole item please...
Title: Re: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: rosieposie on December 01, 2011, 01:05:11 PM
I copied and pasted it and played with it and it does look like it is NR as Chris says......try doing that and see if you agree.
Title: Re: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: CultureVulture on December 01, 2011, 05:48:18 PM
Apologies ive not been around to reply. Yes looking down the vase it does appear as NR. However my camera is not sophisticated  enough to grab it. Ive added some more pic for you its very thick and heavy as you can see by the rim. Gave me arm ache carrying it. Mind you i also had some other shopping, but when i saw this in a charity shop.. you know the rest.

Thankyou for your help so far..NR wonder what that stands for?
Title: Re: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: astrid on December 02, 2011, 06:49:56 AM
Given your location, it might be a Brittish company in which case I'm utterly clueless.

But just speculating beyond that, if it were German, which would certainly seem possible given the style of the vase, I would think of Nachtmann Riedel. Most of my Nachtmann vases are marked with Nachtmann only, but it could be possible that they used a combined name logo at some point. In which case it would be after 2004, the year when Riedel took over Nachtmann. Unfortunately I haven't seen this sort of logo before, so it remains sheer speculation, sorry.

Astrid
Title: Re: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: rosieposie on December 02, 2011, 10:45:43 AM
Good morning CV!
It might be worth emailing a picture of your vase and signature to ths company to see if they can help.  I too had considered Natchmann-Riedel, and your beautiful vase certainly exudes quality.

http://glassware.riedel.com/index.php/nachtmann/vases.html

Good luck!
Rosie.
Title: Re: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: Ivo on December 02, 2011, 10:55:00 AM
Could also be Marcaurel, one of the brands from Nachtman.
Title: Re: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: rosieposie on December 02, 2011, 11:10:43 AM
I have to agree that the N is very like the styelised Nachmann N without the crown.....so, we could be getting somewhere....I looked at Marc Aurel and the Logo looks different,  but who knows, they may have changed it recently??
Title: Re: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: CultureVulture on December 02, 2011, 11:27:38 PM
Thanks for leads im looking into it. If i cant find anything i will try emailing them with the pic
Thankyou
Title: Re: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: flying free on March 17, 2012, 09:54:34 AM
this mark is the same as one I have on an identified Waterford Marquis ice bucket. I believe your vase is from the Waterford Marquis range :)
m
Title: Re: Unknown signature etched on base of 3.5kg cut crystal vase
Post by: rosieposie on March 17, 2012, 12:55:07 PM
Looks like w can put this one to bed then m, because here is a link to a vase like yours CV, sorry I can't work out how to shorten the url!!
 
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=waterford+marquis&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1005&bih=416&tbm=isch&tbnid=mVlzmWD9WOfT2M:&imgrefurl=http://www.styleceo.com/marquis-by-waterford-wyndmere-11andquot-crystal-vase-2625811/p/2625811/&docid=6iW_SYwpRP2cuM&imgurl=http://www.styleceo.com/images/stores/714/m/marquis-by-waterford-wyndmere-11andquot-crystal-vase-2625811&w=400&h=400&ei=CIhkT6u2DI67hAf2vfmfCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=78&vpy=56&dur=2714&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=109&ty=138&sig=110877878581944479057&page=5&tbnh=116&tbnw=104&start=70&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:70 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=waterford+marquis&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1005&bih=416&tbm=isch&tbnid=mVlzmWD9WOfT2M:&imgrefurl=http://www.styleceo.com/marquis-by-waterford-wyndmere-11andquot-crystal-vase-2625811/p/2625811/&docid=6iW_SYwpRP2cuM&imgurl=http://www.styleceo.com/images/stores/714/m/marquis-by-waterford-wyndmere-11andquot-crystal-vase-2625811&w=400&h=400&ei=CIhkT6u2DI67hAf2vfmfCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=78&vpy=56&dur=2714&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=109&ty=138&sig=110877878581944479057&page=5&tbnh=116&tbnw=104&start=70&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:70)