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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: flying free on December 30, 2011, 01:55:39 PM
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This is another mystery to me. I think it is quite old - lots of genuine base wear and the clear glass just looks old somehow. Mould blown, cut, polished and bevelled at the rim (sorry no pic of the base at the mo but will do one), lovely white enamelled decoration with hand enamelled raised flowers all round the body and then a colourful decoration of enamelled/painted flowers at the neck. Measures 3.5" tall or 8.8cm and about 3 1/4" at widest part. I thought it may be French perhaps or English? no idea why though :-\ and can't find anything similar at all.
Any thoughts much appreciated :)
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base shot - this is the best I could get, it makes it look undulating because of the reflections but it isn't. It's neat, smooth and perhaps just is slightly concave towards the centre. But it does have the sort of pit marks that can be seen on the photo.
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Remarkable enamelling! I would have thought Bohemian turn of century (1890-1910ish) most likely. Although the bright flowers are like those seen on French pottery.
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Thank you Frank :)
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I thought I'd post this link here even though there may not be a connection between my piece and the linked box, because it is the only similar thing I have found. Anyone else see a faint resemblance or am I barking up the wrong tree entirely perhaps :-\
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,34348.msg185862.html#msg185862
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IMHO, I would say it was an old hobby piece and rather nicely done.
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thanks for looking Christine :) the enamelled white curlicues and flowers on the body are thick enamel and fired on - would it be possible for a hobby decorator be able to fire a piece? I'd have thought cold enamel would be likely but fired on maybe not?
I had been thinking along similar lines though - a) I was thinking it looks as though it has been designed and enamelled to 'look like' overlay glass (ie a poor man's substitute if you like) and also b) there is no gilt on it (couldn't afford it?) and lastly, c) the little glass piece is lovely, well finished polished at the rim etc, but doesn't have the thickness and heft of a more expensive piece - but that may just be my complete lack of experience in handling glass. I can't find anything like it, but I have to say looking at it, and then comparing to much of the enamel work I've found, it is of an excellent quality.
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Glass and china painting classes were run for ladies of leisure. No reason why there couldn't have been access to a small kiln. The quality of the painting certainly far outweighs the quality of the glass.
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Flat enamelling possibly, but with all due respect this type of enamelling is too professional and a Bohemian development of the 19th Century. The enamel is mixed with a material, I forget what, that causes it to swell on firing.
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ok thanks :) I will keep looking, but I must have searched literally hundreds of images of enamelled glass in various forms for things and not found anything similar ...or indeed any Bohemian enamelled glass that doesn't seem also to have some form of gilding on it mostly :-\
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Bohemian lampshade c1900
(http://www.glasscatalogue.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/194ff24137d8ee4ae0129ddabc096808.jpg)
courtesy www.glass-study.com
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Thanks :sun: I will take a look at the glass study pages. Also you've prompted me that I do have quite a few enamelled pieces without gilt, however they are all on Opaline glass rather than like this on clear glass.
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The variety in Bohemian glass in that period is immense, hundreds of decorators and the kilns moved from place to place. Sure you get repetition and lots of an ilk, but you also get lots of variety and generally less common. I think what you have is spectacular and while I might be completely off in ID... who cares! Most of the examples in Glass Study do have gold enamelling too.
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:kissy: thank you Frank :)
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