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Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: tsallati on March 10, 2006, 05:13:56 PM

Hi all,

Wonder whether there is someone in the ether who knows about the origins of my lamp - from the mushroom-like design and colouration I would surmise that it is an early 20th century French Art Nouveau lamp in Daum style.  I am further led to this conclusion as in my travels I have seen blown glass vases with similar colouration by Berlouse - hence the title of the post.

However, the signature as shown is clearly not Berlouse and I am unable to clearly make it out.  I am certain it is the name of the designer but searches have so far yielded nothing.  The same signature is also on the base.

Unfortunately it was purchased with the base in several pieces, but they have been carefully glued together and I don't think I would ever part with it!

Can anyone give me any pointers?  It is always good to be educated about these things!

Best wishes

Tom

http://i2.tinypic.com/r29g7n.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/r29get.jpg

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: Della on March 10, 2006, 05:24:10 PM

The signature says. A(?). France.
So French it is. As to maker, I don't know, sorry. :cry:

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: tsallati on March 10, 2006, 05:54:42 PM

Well you would think so, but if you look more closely, it is A. and then the next word begins with "E", rather than "A" as the base of the letter is joined

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: pamela on March 10, 2006, 05:55:27 PM

Tom and Della, could it also be

et. France  ?

Etling?

et is French for English and

 :roll:  :?

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: Della on March 10, 2006, 06:39:36 PM

Hi Tom,
I was just going off how my children are taught to write here on the continent and that is exactly how my daughter writes France.

Hi Pamela,
It is really difficult to see. Oooh how frustrating.  :evil:

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: pamela on March 10, 2006, 08:31:48 PM

Della, seconded  -  that's how also my children were taught to write  :wink:

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: pamela on March 10, 2006, 08:32:44 PM

and me too, by the way  :roll:

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: Ivo on March 11, 2006, 08:27:26 AM

That is the "Lampe Odéon" from the "Chardin" range of La Rochère as found in the 2001 winter collection catalogue - I'm not sure you'll find it on their website http://www.larochere.com/ too, I didn't stop to look.
 :roll:

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: Frank on March 11, 2006, 11:41:41 AM

I had thought it looked like the lamps you see in Paris now, but as it was a few years since I was last there did not trust my memory.

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: tsallati on March 11, 2006, 02:25:03 PM

Is it possible to see a picture?  I don't wish to question but you see, it doesn't explain the signature and I forgot to mention previously, the cable which powers the lamp is early 20th century, certainly not 2001.

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: Ivo on March 11, 2006, 02:46:00 PM

(http://i2.tinypic.com/r7m1b6.jpg)

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: tsallati on March 11, 2006, 03:13:53 PM

Hi, yes confirmed, it is definitely not the same, although I admit it is a very good likeness.   The dome is too narrow and curved under in the lamp picture you have shown me - the dome in my lamp is not so deep.  Also, the base is flat rather than pedestal like.

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: Frank on March 11, 2006, 06:49:16 PM

Replacing fittings on repro lamps is one of the scams to be wary of.

Early 20th century cable is unlikely to have survived this long. Paper insulated would have crumbled to dust and natural rubber would have completely hardened and crumble. 1930's cable with rubber insulation might be a little flexible if well stored but not very likely. Rubber insulated from the 1950's could survive and just be useable to wire up a lamp now, to most people it would look incredibly ancient - still unlikely to be safe though.

Reproduction cable can be found.

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: Ivo on March 11, 2006, 06:53:27 PM

Now that you have a lead i suggest you bother the manufacturer with further questions and keep us informed of the results.

Title: Art Nouveau Glass Lamp - (?) Berlouse
Post by: Della on March 11, 2006, 11:15:00 PM

Tom,
Here are some other lamps by the same manufacturer (just scroll down a little).

http://www.st-thomas-jewellers.co.uk/Misc.htm

Otherwise, it may best best to do as Ivo suggests and contact the manufacturer personally and ask for their opinion.

Title: berlous
Post by: mikebonneglass on March 12, 2006, 08:22:50 AM

The Lamp is deffinitely NOT from 2001 or anything like as tall as the  La Rochelle Range.  I would think it to be one of the minor French Glass makers from the Nouveau period.

Tom, if you bring the lamp to us w may also be able to idntify the signature .

Juk - MBglass