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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: rocco on January 20, 2012, 03:23:50 PM
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Can somebody shed a light on maker/age of this vase please? :)
28 cm high, pastel blue/yellow/pink, with a soft golden iridescence. Indented foot, no pontil mark, smooth rim.
Shape is vaguely similar to the Venini "Veronese" vases, technically very different though:
I think that the colours (at least the pink and the yellow, not so sure about the blue) might be painted on. But I cannot tell with certainty.
The exterior is irregularly ribbed, I guess due to the way it was made (the whole thing looks as if it was made on a potter's wheel if you know what I mean).
I have absolutely no idea where it might come from, neither if it is totally new or quite old...
So any help very much appreciated!
Thanks
Michael
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Dear G...I had an exact piece in my watch list on ebay a few months ago and for the life of me I cannot remember who it was attributed to. Stunning piece rocco!
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Kane, thank you so much for your comment!
Any ideas at least from which area the piece might come from? -- Is Murano an option?
And I am really curious about the technical aspect; how was this vase made? Does the horizontal ribbing indicate anything?
Michael
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Just found this vase (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Incalmo-Vase-Murano-verschiedenen-Farbschichten-aufgeteilt-/380404010600?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item5891d88e68) on German ebay, which has some similarities to my piece (though the seller claims it to be Incalmo the colours seem to be painted on IMHO).
Not that this helps much in attribution...
Michael
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I think your vase has a lovely almost classic shape, it would not surprise me if it turned out to be from Murano. I have to qualify that by saying I know next to nothing about glass from Murano....
As to the ebay vase it does look as though there are joins but again, refer to my comment above!
I wonder if they are both from a contemporary maker?
I can not see the ribbing you mention, can you take another photo to highlight it? Sometimes shading the item from direct light can help pick out such features.
John
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I'm not sure this is helpful at all, but Walther Driburg used 'sprayed on' colours, with a slight iridescence sometimes, and in those shades. I've had a quick search through the board and the colours on yours are similar to those they used but the shape of the piece is nothing like. I just thought though, that if they used that technique and you think it is painted on, then perhaps another maker was using the same technique.
If you search Walther Driburg you should come up with some threads on the painted on technique.
m
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Thank you all very much for your thoughts!
@John: I agree that the ebay vase seems to have joints (I cannot tell for sure) -- but if you look at the pic of the base (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Nzk1WDg2Mg==/$%28KGrHqZ,!m!E6+gsMgIzBOz9byhGiQ~~60_12.JPG) the iridescent pink seems to start just in the middle of the clear glass with no joint -- that's why I supposed the colour could be sprayed on.
The colours scheme does look remarkably similar, don't you think?
I tried to take a pic to show the horizontal "ribbing" in my vase (which IMO is not part of the design but due to technical necesseties); didn't work very well -- best seen in the distortions of the background :)
@m: that is an interesting idea with Walther; I searched the board and the web, the only other lustred piece I could find was this one: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,26890.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,26890.0.html)
And your interesting thread: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40617.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40617.0.html)
Still all Walther items I have seen were pressed glass (which my vase is clearly not).
But maybe Walther was the refiner of blanks from other makers? :ho:
Michael
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Rocco, I wasn't thinking it was Walther but perhaps another maker was using that technique if you think it is a 'sprayed-on or 'painted on' colour?
m
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For sprayed on colour lustre you could look at Romania. Turkey is nother country where this is a favourite technique, though mostly used on tableware. The shape of the vase has been used by i.a. IVV.
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Ivo, thanks a lot for looking into this!
But what the heck does i.a. IVV. mean?
Edit: found it ;D
Michael
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Sorry rocco, can't add much else to help you unfortunately. The shape definitely looks in the Murano style in my opinion, but when you say 'sprayed on' colour, I can't point you in any direction. Nice piece though!
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I have some huge wineglasses with the same colours: pink bowls and blue stems, and they appear to be a surface applied colour as well. It has a sort of almost slightly plasticky feel to it. Does the vase have the same feel? I seem to recall the glasses were Eastern European but I can't quite remember whereabouts from! Could your vase be a decanter / carafe without a stopper?
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Thanks folks!!
I am rather certain that the colours are applied on the surface (if you look at the detail pic of the knob I think there are some colourless sections visible)
What do you think about the similarities to the ebay piece I linked to above?
@Kane: I agree that the shape is really nice with good proportions
@Anne: to me the surface doesn't have a "plasticky" feeling -- very smooth and shiny...
Funny when I first saw it I thought that there might be a stopper missing -- but after looking at many many vases with similar shapes I don't think so (plus there is no wear in the neck).
But it's certainly possible that Eastern Europe is the area the piece (or at least the decoration) comes from.
Michael
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Here (http://www.ebay.de/itm/SENT-GUGLIEMO-MURANO-VASE-/220946211791?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item33716ba3cf) is another vase on ebay which seems to have a decoration similar to mine (and in the same colours).
It has a label and signature "Sent Murano" -- whoever that may be...
Michael
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this is a link for SENT who make glass jewellery
http://www.marinaesusannasent.com/home_eng.php
maybe lampwork? is it very light? or a family connection - btw I love their jewellery ;D
m
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Thanks, m! :)
The ebay piece seems to be very lightweight, while mine isn't.
I looked at the SENT website, as well as another one -- Cesare Sent (http://www.cesaresent.com/prodotti_eng.asp?lin=fiori)
Unfortunately nothing similar to the vases on their websites...
So maybe another Murano family associated with glass and several companies coming and going?
Michael