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Title: Lampwork Figure
Post by: Leni on January 27, 2012, 02:15:47 PM
Does anyone have any idea who might have made this lovely little dancing lady?  She's just 4" tall (10cm) and ... erm ... perfectly formed  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: Ivo on January 27, 2012, 05:14:40 PM
would you believe Lauscha? Just asking....
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: Leni on January 27, 2012, 05:30:29 PM
would you believe Lauscha? Just asking....

Well, it's one of the names that went through my head, but I'm just guessing here.  I wondered if anyone who had more definite knowledge about this sort of thing might know, rather than guess.  Or is it one of those cases of "could be this, could be that"?

An idea of her age would be nice, too.

Thanks, Ivo  :)   
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 27, 2012, 05:58:25 PM
she's very cold..... sorry, I can't help!
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: flying free on January 27, 2012, 06:40:55 PM
Leni, have you looked at the ZBS catalogues?  I wonder if she is in there maybe? I'll try and find you a link to one.
I do know that I was looking up some Lampl pieces a while back and dredging my memory there was some mention of more recent generations carrying on lampwork so that might also be worth a look?
link here
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Glassexport-1955-Figuren.153+B6YmFja1BJRD0xNTMmcHJvZHVjdElEPTY2NTAmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MTUzJmRldGFpbD0_.0.html
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Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: flying free on January 27, 2012, 07:18:09 PM
I looked in the 1955 one and couldn't see her and the stands do look a bit different as well.
I'm not sure where to find Lauscha catalogues if they exist  :-\
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Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: Ivo on January 27, 2012, 08:00:05 PM
It will be tricky as Lauscha is a town with dozens of lampworkers and not a single company working according to catalogues. Their subjects are many and various as are their styles - so you can never be certain unless you can attribute your piece to Bimini or Pirelli or something.
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: TxSilver on January 28, 2012, 12:56:47 AM
Bimini was my first thought. It looks like something they would have done.
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: flying free on January 28, 2012, 01:06:20 AM
link here to another thread on the GMB with figurines in.  They look a little different to yours - not so umm exact  ;D
there was a possible attribution on that thread to possibly Bimini (ball players) or Lauscha
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,41526.msg230040.html#msg230040
and here is a link to a good description of Bimini figures and some pics.  I don't think yours is the same  :-\
http://www.glass.co.nz/bimini.htm
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Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: kane_u_pain on January 28, 2012, 04:20:09 AM
Great legs, but those nipples look like they could blind a person at fifty yards... :chky:
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: Leni on January 28, 2012, 09:12:04 AM
Great legs, but those nipples look like they could blind a person at fifty yards... :chky:

 :24: :24: :24: Well, as Sue said, she must be cold dancing in the nude! :24:

I agree, I don't think she's by the same hand that made the Bimini figures which were in the other thread.  The base was another thing which is different ... but I wondered if that was relevant or not  :-\ 

I do own a Lauscha stag, so I was thinking of that, but I didn't really think about what Ivo has pointed out, that there are many people in the village of Lauscha who make glass figures!  I think I had been thinking of 'Lauscha' as we think of a glass factory, rather than just as a village where people are known for making glass figures!  :pb: 

I love the sheer exuberance of her!  She looks as if she is just about to take a step forward and dance off into the distance! :girlcheer: (Somewhere warmer, perhaps? :sun: )
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: Paul S. on January 28, 2012, 09:28:14 AM
I know nothing of lampwork, but like most of us, there is sometimes an intuitive feeling about a creation that either does, or doesn't give a sense of correctness.     Having looked at just a few of the earlier Bimini period examples, they have, obviously, a period look and their design is more stylized  -  this one just seems so anatomically OTT that it was made more as a piece of humour.      So, my suggestion is that this piece is modern, and will remain without an attribution.    Someone perhaps had Josephine Baker in mind, and those big bits were an attempt at tassels. ;) 
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: scavo on January 28, 2012, 11:13:07 AM
Wonderful! I love it and usually steer away from lampwork figures - but this one I would have had-to-have!

I just have some comments on styling.

I followed the link to Glas musterbuch site and on p32 of the Glassexport 1955 catalogue the bases of the fish are on are similar. Much more so than those on the Bimini links - but then - on p30 there are figures with bases the same as on the Bimini links. I was looking closely at the legs of the bathers on p21 and there are similarities - but the faces on those figures are completely different. And the glaring difference is the absence of figures of 'people of colour' from Z/B at this time.

Similar base here: http://www.toeuropewithkids.com/2010_12_01_archive.html

Their are similarities and differences to contemporary Czech figures here: http://www.czechglass.co.uk/czech-glass-sculptures.html  in as much as we see an interest in 'ethnic' figurines - which was a popular subject matter in 1950s/60s decorative homewares (kitsch)- but in a completely different style. If I'd have found this piece of glass I'd be hoping it was '50s or '60s. But most of what I see have eyes. I'm off to look at Pirelli glass figures. Or perhaps Pirelli calenders?




Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: rosieposie on January 29, 2012, 06:28:56 PM
Hi Leni,  I have had a few moments to contact Keith Hill about this figurine, and he has suggested that it could well be by Rowan van der Holt who has a workshop in Bristol.
 
When I visited Keith and Judy to pick up a piece of Komaromy glass,  he showed me a small collection of this type of glass he had, and so I took the liberty of asking him about your piece. And Rowan was, in his opinion, quite possibly the maker.
 
Rowan will be exhibiting at the Cambridge Glass fair, so if you are going,  it might be worth taking some pictures of your lovely dancer with you, and asking her.  If you aren't going,  I am happy to ask for you if you want to send a few pics to me to take along. 
Just let me know.....I will be visiting her stand anyway, so it will be no trouble.
Rosie. :)
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: Leni on January 29, 2012, 08:27:10 PM
Thank you, Rosie.  Yes, we will be going to Cambridge.  I will make a point of asking Rowan about my dancing lady!  :kissy:
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: rosieposie on January 29, 2012, 09:19:52 PM
That's great Leni,  maybe we can make a point of meeting up.....it would be good to meet you and some of the others who at the moment are only 'names'.....waddayathink?
Rosie.  :)
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: Leni on January 30, 2012, 07:45:22 AM
Great idea!  Wear a *rose* in your buttonhole so we recognise you!   ;D   :thup:
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: rosieposie on February 02, 2012, 04:56:12 PM
OK,  I will try to remember!!  :usd:
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: johnphilip on February 02, 2012, 05:40:24 PM
Rosie  i have seen your mug in rogues gallery , once seen never forgotten !!! see you there ,  find me and  i will buy you a glass .         
 of water , no lunch is on me coz u r a sweetie, so i am told by ALL the guys on the forum , hubby can buy his own . ;)
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: rosieposie on February 02, 2012, 05:52:14 PM
That pic was taken YEARS ago JP,  I am old and grey now......anyway,  you always try to avoid me,  so even a free glass of water may not tempt me to ask who you are! but a peppermint tea might!.......However I will wear a rose so that those who don't think I'm 'a sweetie' can avoid me!
Rosie. ;)
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: scavo on February 02, 2012, 06:10:04 PM
back to figure: https://picasaweb.google.com/exat53/BrychtaUndSchule#5159802051154125890 similarities with the figure for sure but the base is different. Maybe it's about size? If figures were small - like the fish ... the boobs look similar and this one has no facial features. Worth checking out?
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 02, 2012, 06:54:47 PM
I think they're modelled very differently! The first one may have spectacular nipples, but the boobs look real and she's very muscle-y, just like a real dancer.
The second one has a pair of fake boobs and she's much more smooth and elegant in her outline. She's not a body-builder - she goes for the quick fix of plastic surgery!
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: rosieposie on February 02, 2012, 07:06:26 PM
Phew,  thanks for the escape route Scavo......!!  :usd:

I wouldn't let the base be the determining factor,  they are often configured to balance the stand and weight distribution of the figurine,  however,
I am with Sue here, they don't look like the same artist, unless of course there is a large time gap between their making and the artist has 'moved on' in style.
I will be very interested in Leni's reporting back after seeing Rowan.
Rosie.  :)
Title: Re: Lampwork Figure
Post by: rosieposie on August 24, 2016, 11:08:32 PM
Now I thiink this might be by Brett McDonald.... after all these years, I am getting to know other makers.