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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: selina on January 28, 2012, 07:37:03 AM
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I am not the owner/winner of these gorgeous bookends but was curious to know who would have made them? They are very similar to the Wembley Pottery bookends. I haven't seen them in glass before.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190625888955
Mod: see reply #22 #23 & #24 for saved images from this listing. Images saved with the kind permission of the seller, http://myworld.ebay.com.au/heatherwick999/
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hello Selina - I hate to say it but you may get shot for posting pix of pieces that you neither own or perhaps don't have permision to use the images of. Having said that, I do know from trawling Pamela's glaspavillon site, that there is somewhere an example of a woman in this identical p.e. pose with legs vertical - although minus the bookend base. If I get the time today I will have a look for you, or alternatively you can look for yourself. http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/
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Hmm didnt think that I couldnt post ebay links as I thought they were public :/ And its a completed listing....
Better put my bullet proof vest on!
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and the answer is.......... that it's on the Skol Union data base CD - so Czechoslovakian, and the piece I'd remembered seeing is the same i.e. a bookend, although shown only in black and white of course. For reference it is: Libochovice Glass Export before 1958 (fourth catalogue down) - item No. 2265 showing at the top of page 53. Size is given as 205mm (8"). Very attractive to have a pair in u. - although I doubt that words like iridescence and depression are correct when used in relation to these figures.
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Thanks :)
Since then I've seen two old ebay listings, one listing them as Mosser and the other as Mosser made by Cambridge...seems there is a little confusion over them...
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Can I view the catalogue online anywhere?
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Paul, the link to the eBay listing is fine. What you mustn't do is nick the pics off the link and post them to the board!
Selina, you can take off your bullet proof vest, you've not broken any rules. :)
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Anne - is it o.k. to add images from the Sklo Union CD here - I'm not sure??
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These are (or could be depending on which side of the pond you live) Cambridge Lady Legs bookends #1141 made in the 20's (Depression era). Mosser has the original mold & made them in 1975 through 1978 in Uranium & a medium Blue (unmarked). Only the 1977 specific to NCC versions are marked. This is probably simply another example of an identical item being made in both the U.S. & Europe. I can tell you though that the Cambridge mold was an original made in the plant...it was not a purchased mold. Ken
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What a beautiful gift these would make for a Yoga enthusiast........I would love to own those Selina!
Ken, that is very useful info, because it gives more choices for searching for other pieces like these.....I am off to see if I can find some, Art Deco and Art Nouveau are my favourite!
Rosie. :)
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Rosie you and I both!! I've been eyeing off the pottery ones for a few years but they were out of my budget. I collect glass but also lady items, deco lamps etc and the glass ones fit both criteria for me, uranium ones, well that's the whole kit and kaboodle. :thup:
Thanks Anne, I tend to type first and think later :)
Ok, so Mosser made them, and Cambridge and Sklo Union... which does give many more options to find myself another pair.
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Well if you like Deco be aware that Sarsaparilla had a mold made to produce these in their metal alloy & they are a direct copy.
http://frankartdeco.com/product.php?p=SA-196
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Oh ...well no way of telling whether anything is a copy or genuine deco period then .....
Everyone here has such a wealth of information...before I saw them I tried looking everywhere and didnt find anything even similar.
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Wow, wouldn't it be amazing to have a set of each in all three media, glass, pottery and metal? I love collecting sets of things......I think it might be slightly obsessive, but then if you are not obsessive, you probably would never become a collector of things????
And we are very glad you joined us!!
Rosie. :)
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Anything from a book or CD which is covered by a copyright statement may not be posted Paul, that would cover the SU book CD images as the catalogues were reproduced under specific conditions.
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thanks Anne............in that case Selina will need to purchase the Sklo Union book (which includes the CD) - in order to at least see the original b. & w. drawings of the Czech Libochovice design. Of course, that would be money very well spent anyway, in view of the amount of interesting and useful data they contain. :)
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These are (or could be depending on which side of the pond you live) Cambridge Lady Legs bookends #1141 made in the 20's (Depression era). Mosser has the original mold & made them in 1975 through 1978 in Uranium & a medium Blue (unmarked). Only the 1977 specific to NCC versions are marked. This is probably simply another example of an identical item being made in both the U.S. & Europe. I can tell you though that the Cambridge mold was an original made in the plant...it was not a purchased mold. Ken
Hi Ken, that's very interesting, do you have a (copyright-free) picture of the Cambridge design please, and do you know the dimensions of the Cambridge version? It'd be interesting to be able to compare the two designs side by side. Like Paul, I'd have thought Libochovice as well, but as the seller was in Australia it could well have been either. It'd be good if we could try and pin it down though. I've asked the seller if we can add copies of her pics to this topic for reference and am awaiting a response.
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No Anne I don't & NCC doesn't have the patent design listed either. The MVSG has the original catalog page plus a photo & I have a later 1929 catalog page. Cambridge as well as many U.S. glass manufacturers did not file alot of patents, some yes, but 90% (and that a minimum) of all pieces/designs were not filed or covered by patents. The MVSG URLS are below.
http://www.mvsg.org/cm/displayimage.php?album=234&pos=565
http://www.mvsg.org/cm/displayimage.php?album=234&pos=566
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Thanks Ken. I'm not able to open the links as they are giving me a 403 Forbidden message. :(
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That is strange Anne, they work for me & MVSG is a public information group site for Cambridge glass...everything is available free (no membership or sign in required) to everyone worldwide. Their main URL is below & if you put lady legs bookends in the search box you can see the options available for viewing. http://mvsg.org/
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They won't work for me either Ken, neither will the new one you have given...... :cry:
Rosie. :)
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No still 403 Forbidden Ken. Perhaps they are screening us out by country as Rosie can't reach them either?
On a happier note, the eBay seller of the lovely ladies has replied saying we can add her images to the board for permanent reference, which is very kind of her, so I'll get that sorted next. :)
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Shareena's images posted with her consent.
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Shareena's images posted with her consent.
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Shareena's images posted with her consent.
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Now I just want them even more!
Sklo Union .... I'm not sure but my candle holders may even be in that book :)
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Does anyone know if the shade/hue/depth of uranium green from Libochovice is similar to these ladies, or not??
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Selina - if you care to post pix of your candle holders (as a completely separate post please) we will look in the Sklo Union book/CD for you. :)
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Anne I'm going to contact MVSG since I know a few of the individuals involved. I have absolutely no idea why there would be any restrictions in place that does not allow viewing the site world-wide. I'll get back to you. Ken Edited: I've contacted a member & they will look into it ASAP. There should be no reason why mvsg.org isn't viewable world-wide.
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Thanks Ken, it's a bit of a puzzle isn't it? Shall await the outcome with interest. :)
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Anne while we wait do me a favor....in the Google search box enter miami valley study group & see what pops up? Ken
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Google finds the website but the links give 404 again Ken
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Same for me too Ken,
Rosie. :ac1:
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Me too, 403 Permission denied, Ken. :(
(not 404 Not found.)
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Well I received an answer from their webmaster & unfortunately its not favorable.Some time ago, their site was hacked by someone in an Eastern block country using a European web server. It took a considerable amount of time to rebuild the site as it was virtually destroyed. Since interest in the site is mainly US and on advice of their hosting support team, they blocked access to internet addresses covering most of Europe & Asia. They are however surprised that some Canadians are affected. They apologize for the problems caused by these blocks but the blocks will have to remain in place to protect the site from further attacks.
I am personally sorry that this will deprive the european glass community from accessing the site...obviously though I don't have anything further to say over the situation. Ken
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Was going to modify the above post, but too late. Additional info I was given during a phone conversation may help. The original Cambridge Lady Legs had ground flat edges & the bottom was hand ground also. The Mosser ones were only fire polished, not ground & Crystal was the color although their may have been some Light Emerald ones made. Additionally & I forgot about this one...there was an exact copy of the mold (it was a new mold) made by a private monied individual in the early 70's & about 200 were made in light Custard that had Uranium Oxide (they glow), but the Custard color was the only color produced & no one knows what happened to that mold. Maybe this might help distinguish the ones produced by Libochovice. Ken
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What is to stop the same hacker from using a US based web server?
John
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I think my candle holders are still on my gallery on here..just not sure how to link to it at this stage....can't even find it! LOL
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Glassobsessed...John I really cannot say much except that last night in two phone calls I unloaded on some people & told them to look up the defination of proxy server. Everyone in in the world who has a site on the web should know the risks involved & they should also know that blocking IPs & ISPs will do virtually nothing to prevent an attack. Chicken Little syndrome at work here...sky is falling, etc. I know I will not be directing anyone anymore on either side of the pond to that site in the future. Ken
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Found this in a link posted to another topic:
http://www.schubert-crystal.com/data/image/historicka-sbirka/STOJ%C3%81NKY%20NA%20KNIHY%20J%C3%93GA.JPG (http://www.schubert-crystal.com/data/image/historicka-sbirka/STOJ%C3%81NKY%20NA%20KNIHY%20J%C3%93GA.JPG)