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Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker? ID = Davidson No. 1 plinth (4")
Post by: Anne E.B. on March 12, 2006, 05:17:53 PM

I'm not too sure what this could actually be - Davidson's purple/amethyst or Walther violet or pink? I checked Chris & Val's cloud glass site where I spotted these possibilities.   It has a matt finish - not polished, so does that mean its not Davidson?  There are no markings to be seen.  Its quite large - but again I'm a little confused as to how to actually measure these things.  Are they measured across their widest part, or just across the recess?  This one has a 4" diam. recess, and 6" at its widest.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/cloudglass003.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/cloudglass004.jpg

I haven't come across one this colour before so its completely thrown me. Any help would be much appreciated. Many thanks as always :P

Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker?
Post by: Adam on March 12, 2006, 08:14:41 PM

It looks vaguely Davidson to me, but either Bernard or Chris/Val will know.  All I can say definitely is that the acid etched finish does NOT exclude Davidson - a great deal of their stuff was so treated.

Adam D.

Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker?
Post by: ChrisStewart on March 12, 2006, 09:20:44 PM

Hi,
    It is a Davidson purple cloud glass plinth. Davidson did make some items of cloud glass with an all matt finish. We have a 1910MD in purple cloud which is all matt except for the flower dome and it looks stunning!

Regards

Chris

Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker?
Post by: pamela on March 12, 2006, 09:27:33 PM

Anne, IMHO the oval shape would perhaps only fit to Walther's 'Hermann' Brotkorb "bread 'basket'" (more an oval bowl) - the only one I can see that was made in Oralit too

http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/00807.html

and: I can see no Oralit plinth in Walther catalogues, which of course does mean nothing, they perhaps could have made them anyway ...  :twisted:  

no idea of measurements of Hermann, I'm afraid - but about 4" equal to nearly/abt. 11 cms? could fit, but despite this Hermann bowl, I do not know any Walther centrepiece with oval shaped base, requesting a plinth

 :?

Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker?
Post by: Anne E.B. on March 12, 2006, 09:28:29 PM

Many thanks Adam and Chris.
Much appreciated as always :P

Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker?
Post by: Anne E.B. on March 12, 2006, 09:32:24 PM

Thanks too Pamela :P   I will have to keep a look out for an oval shape plinth.
 8)

Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker?
Post by: pamela on March 12, 2006, 09:38:45 PM

:oops:  :oops:  :oops: YOURS is not oval???

Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker?
Post by: pamela on March 12, 2006, 09:46:07 PM

Anne, what I tried to express in my 9.27 pm post was that an oval shaped plinth like yours is not known to me and cannot be found in Walther catalogues. and so on and so on, only Hermann would perhaps fit and so on and so on.... hmmm
I tend to Davidson also  :oops:

Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker?
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 12, 2006, 09:52:19 PM

Hi Pamela I think you are confused by Anne's measurements and slightly misleading picture. Her plinth is round. The recess where the bowl sits is 4 inches diameter and the base is 6 inches diameter. :)

Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker?
Post by: Anne E.B. on March 12, 2006, 09:57:01 PM

Oooh I can see why you thought it was oval - my photo is taken at rather a strange angle making it look oval when in fact it is round.  My poor photography skills I'm afraid :oops:  :lol:  Sorry Pamela  for the confusion :oops:

Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker?
Post by: Bernard C on March 14, 2006, 08:22:36 PM

Anne — Your 4" fitting plinth is a No. 1.

Fully matted plinths were usually supplied with "D"ed sets, in this size most likely 1910MD or S696MD, although, as Chris pointed out, all over matted purple cloud sets look stunning but are unusual.

If you look or feel carefully on the underside, you may be able to detect a relief inscription.

Bernard C.  8)

Title: Cloud glass plinth - Colour? Maker?
Post by: Anne E.B. on March 15, 2006, 10:09:20 AM

Thank you Bernard :P   I've been unable to detect any markings but that's not to say there aren't any, just that I'm a bit clack-handed and my eyesight is far from perfect.  I'll get my daughter to check it out.  Her musician's hands and fingers are far more sensitive than my 'bunch of sausages! ' :lol: