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Title: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: Andy on February 04, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
Any ideas on this ? Bohemian ? English ? Its very good quality, deep cutting , thick bristol blue overlay, cut to clear.
number 11 on stopper and base. 1.5 kg.  7 1/2 inches tall. Star Cut base.

Ive never seen a shape like it !  :o
Maybe for a liquer. Or maybe its more of a claret jug ?


Andy
 :ho:
Title: Re: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: flying free on February 04, 2012, 08:11:34 PM
I think it is a decanter.
m
Title: Re: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: Andy on February 04, 2012, 08:44:39 PM
Thanks m,

I think i will call it a Flagon Decanter !  ;D

Origin? European is probably as close as i will get.

Andy
Title: Re: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: flying free on February 04, 2012, 10:27:36 PM
In Andy McConnell's 20th century glass there is a Loetz one page 29 that is a similarish design in shape if you see what I mean?  It is described as a 'spherical iridescent decanter', which is why I think yours is probably a decanter.
As to maker, I have just seen a set of decanter and glasses in this blue cut to clear overlay design, attributed as French.  Personally my first stop for searching would be Czechoslovakian.  So ...who knows? I can't think it will be that difficult to find one eventually though, it's quite a distinctive shape and great overlay design.
m
Title: Re: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: beaubow on February 04, 2012, 11:26:38 PM
I seem to remember someone posting one of these on the eBay PGP board, and that they were finally able to confirm it was 19th century Baccarat.  They had matching glasses as well.

In the US, this shape was called a "rum pot" but I don't think that applies in this case.
Title: Re: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: Tigerchips on February 04, 2012, 11:38:10 PM
Nice, reminds me of Christopher Dresser... http://www.morganstricklandantiques.com/metalware/m32.html
Title: Re: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: Andy on February 05, 2012, 12:13:32 AM
Oooh, interesting ideas, i will have to do a bit more searching tomorrow.
I was looking through Andy McConnells decanter book earlier, and saw a page of Dresser items, and i did think
there was a resemblence !

Lots of snow here, so plans for trip to an antiques fair in the morning have changed. Online research instead !
 :sun:

Andy

ps age difficult to tell, definite genuine age wear to base, but 30 50 or 150 years , depends where its been !
 
Title: Re: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: Ivo on February 05, 2012, 12:50:10 AM
I have one in this shape which is definitely hunderdprocent murano - so maybe these were made all over?
Title: Re: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: flying free on February 05, 2012, 01:15:55 AM
 so current description as  'European spherical decanter'  ;D
still at least you're only searching Italy, Czechoslovakia and France ......so far
m
Title: Re: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: Andy on February 05, 2012, 11:04:51 AM
Ivo,
 im thinking you mean you have a similar Murano piece in this shape, not the overlaid blue?

Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: Ivo on February 05, 2012, 11:11:52 AM
Identical shape but black glass, coral red handle and stopper, and white enamel lacy decoration and has half a dozen matching glasses on a tray.
Title: Re: Strange Overlaid Decanter/Jug shaped like a teapot or kettle !
Post by: Andy on February 05, 2012, 11:20:22 AM
Sounds very nice  ;D