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Title: Perthshire millefiori & twists amethyst base
Post by: chriscooper on February 05, 2012, 02:09:36 PM

Anything to add would gratefully appreciated...
2.5" across 1.75" high, pink, yellow, white and green canes with green white and blue twists all set in an amethyst base.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gen6NRWbov8/Ty6KgzC6TkI/AAAAAAAAWPY/kiVDovtxmxc/s512/SDC10341.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rRufEPgFfWE/Ty5_J39MEHI/AAAAAAAAWFc/aWqxGV9ivVE/s640/SDC10344.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qlsFKMmE_II/Ty5_FKTRJeI/AAAAAAAAWFM/_ClL7zogVXM/s640/SDC10342.JPG

cheers Chris

Title: Re: Perthshire millefiori & twists amethyst base
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on February 05, 2012, 06:07:28 PM

Classic Perthshire PP1 pre 1978 as it doesnt have a p cane in the centre......  £25 - £30 odd......

Ian

Title: Re: Perthshire millefiori & twists amethyst base
Post by: chriscooper on February 05, 2012, 08:42:35 PM

Cheers Ian.

Chris

Title: Re: Perthshire millefiori & twists amethyst base
Post by: Roger H on February 06, 2012, 10:21:29 PM

   Just a minor point-----its a PP2 as far as I am concerned . Roger (the Rebellious). :ooh:

Title: Re: Perthshire millefiori & twists amethyst base
Post by: KevinH on February 06, 2012, 11:14:53 PM

Yes Roger, you are correct. But it might be nice to say why it's a PP2 - lots of folk will not know about the Size ratings of Perthshire Paperweights paperweights.

So, for anyone who wants to know, according the book "The Complete Guide to Perthshire Paperweights" ...
Small = 2 inch dia. or less
Medium = 2.5 inch dia.
Large = 3 inch dia.
Magnum = greater than 3.5 inch dia.

(I guess that intermediate sizes, if there are any, take the rating of the next lower size.)

Since the PP1 was a Large size and PP2 was Medium, this weight, at 2.5 inch dia., is a PP2.

Title: Re: Perthshire millefiori & twists amethyst base
Post by: paperweights on February 07, 2012, 05:01:42 AM

I realize that the book says that, but I disagree with the use of the term "small" for a weight less than 2".  Anything 2" or less is called a miniature.  When you get over 2" it is small.     

Title: Re: Perthshire millefiori & twists amethyst base
Post by: Roger H on February 07, 2012, 10:23:38 AM

 :ho: :ho: :ho: :ho: :ho: :ho: :ho:

Title: Re: Perthshire millefiori & twists amethyst base
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 07, 2012, 02:56:25 PM

 :mrgreen:  Nice one!!  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Perthshire millefiori & twists amethyst base
Post by: flying free on February 07, 2012, 05:42:22 PM

delightful, lovely colours.
m

Title: Re: Perthshire millefiori & twists amethyst base
Post by: Wuff on February 07, 2012, 06:52:44 PM

Quote from: paperweights on February 07, 2012, 05:01:42 AM

I realize that the book says that, but I disagree with the use of the term "small" for a weight less than 2".  Anything 2" or less is called a miniature.  When you get over 2" it is small.     

Well - I guess we should keep two separate issues separate.

We can discuss in general what is "miniature" or "small" or ...: there is no standard, and I guess there never will be - in other words you can use your own definition for your own classification, but should use measurements (inch or mm) instead when communicating with others.

The point in question here is different, however: the "Complete Guide" uses words (like small or medium) to correlate between the textual descriptions and measurements. The correlations are defined on page 166 ("Characteristics Important for Identification") - so whenever you want to correlate a "size word" in the text (e.g. descriptions of PP1 or PP2) to actual measurements (in inches) you must(!) use the authors' definitions and not your own.

For the weight in question the diameter is given as 2.5" - which in the authors' definition is named "medium". If you look in the textual description PP1 is "large" and PP2 is "medium". The designs of PP1 and PP2 are "overlapping", I mean, it's often difficult to differentiate, unless you know the diameter. As the measured diameter agrees with "medium", the weight in question is indeed a PP2.