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Title: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: markw78 on February 08, 2012, 03:29:19 AM
First what is it?  "Bridal basket", compote, basket?  No markings, it's got a great uranium glow, it's a really beautiful piece.  There's a heavy amount of wear on the bottom, no markings or signs of there once being markings. 
Based on this I guess the age, but it could just never be made for export, so no markings?   

I found one or two pieces with this mold, but neither was in uranium glass and neither had a handle or the same style of base.

http://s1088.photobucket.com/albums/i326/pandw2011/Glass/

There's also 2 pictures of a threaded fan vase I got at he same time from the same estate, it glows with uranium but so little you almost can't see it let alone photo it.  It isn't marked at all either.

Thanks
Mark
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 08, 2012, 05:41:32 AM
Hi Mark, and Welcome to the Board :rah:

That is a very nice piece of Glass.  I am sure someone with more knowledge than me will be able to help, but I am  :mrgreen: with envy over your item.

Again, Welcome.  Sit back, and Enjoy the board!!
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 08, 2012, 07:24:25 AM
Most glass is unmarked, so no surprise there. Kralik looks to be a strong possibility for your basket, which is probably for flowers (it's not a compote). It's almost certainly Bohemian/Czech. Have a look through here for both the shape and the decor; you may find one without the other. http://www.kralik-glass.com/ Time period is about right.

Please post your fan vase in another thread so we don't get things confused (it probaly isn't uranium if there is so little glow; more likely it contains manganese).

I too am green!
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: markw78 on February 08, 2012, 07:48:53 AM
Thanks!  Yah The vase is just incidental, mostly interested in the basket. 

This looks like the mold to me:  http://home.earthlink.net/~verredart1/glass/Kralik%20Urania%20with%20Red%20and%20Yellow%20Threading%20Compote.jpg

And this is the same effect on the base: http://home.earthlink.net/~verredart1/glass/Kralik%202nd%201930s%20Uranium%20Clambroth%20with%20Red%20Windings%20Vase2.jpg

Then added threads, and a handle.. a unique take on a lot of their techniques done into 1 piece
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: flying free on February 08, 2012, 08:20:20 AM
this one looks to be part of the same range as well
http://www.kralik-glass.com/frametemplate.html
I'm quite jealous  ;D it's beautiful.  Any chance of you loading pics straight onto the board please as links disappear over time?
m
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: Wayne on February 08, 2012, 08:31:56 AM
Looks like the Kralik "Flame" range?

http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralikflamearray.html
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: flying free on February 08, 2012, 08:35:42 AM
oops sorry my link didn't work.
If you go to that site, click on Kralik deco era shapes, page 2 second from right, I think it is the same range as that one.  Wayne, I think it is flame but plus the threading? 
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Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: Wayne on February 08, 2012, 08:43:31 AM
Ah well spotted, here's the link:

http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralikdecoshapearray2.html

By the way, the Kralik website uses something called "frames", which means linking the usual way always shows the home page.  To link directly to a particular page, you have to open the page in a new window or tab first, then copy and paste that link.  This has the downside of losing the navigation menu, which is in a different "frame", but it's the only way I know of linking to individual pages.
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: flying free on February 08, 2012, 08:50:25 AM
oh thanks Wayne
so if the OP goes to top row of Wayne's link I think it is from the same range as the vase second from right.
m
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 08, 2012, 09:20:22 AM
To link to frames: right click on the "page" in question/this frame/open frame in new tab (or window) and then copy the url you have in your new tab or window and there you are. This is how Pamela's site works too.
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: flying free on February 08, 2012, 09:27:18 AM
thanks  :sun:
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: obscurities on February 08, 2012, 01:57:17 PM
This is a great example of Kralik Flame with threading..... Nice color combination....

May I copy your pics??

The fan vase, is also a Kralik piece....  Nice finds....  Period wise both of them are interwar....  ca. 1925

Both of them are commonly found with an arched Kralik mark on them, at least here in the US....

Craig
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: markw78 on February 08, 2012, 06:07:11 PM
I don't think it's a flame.  The body isn't tall enough, and the top does not have a lip.

The shape is more like these:
http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralik-images/decoshapes/tn-kds99.jpg
http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralik-images/decoshapes/tn-kds104.jpg

I suspected they would be a hair older due to the lack of markings, but again that could just mean never meant for export?

I don't know why, but I didn't find those pages on the kralik-glass.com site when I looked myself.

I had seen the fan vase marked as a fairly common piece but I hadn't found the basket until now, so I greatly appreciate the insight.

Craig, welcome to the pics.  I took them for selling anyways, I'm not a collector (tho sometimes I want to keep pieces like this when I see them!)  Re. your site is an awesome resource!!  One thing worth noting, I wasn't able to find those links above... I found the 3 pages of Kralik styles off the main pages nav frame, but neither had the same images the links posted above had.  Maybe I'm just missing a link somewhere.




Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 08, 2012, 06:55:08 PM
Your links don't work; copying the image location doesn't work. The decors varied according to what they were appled to. Flame is the decor NOT the shape. Your decor is Flame, which is the name given by collectors I suspect, as few real Kralik names are known, and how Kralik items are generally described. You have a basket in the Flame decor

Your shape is here in row 5 http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralikdecoshapearray3.html, as you said.
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: markw78 on February 09, 2012, 12:10:17 AM
Weird, the links for fine for me, even from a different computer at work.

Thank you for the clarification on what "Flame" meant there, I suspected when a piece is ID'd like that, it would be the form/mold that could be done in any color/pattern.  Sounds like it will vary based on who the piece is attributed to.

Edit: hey look, it's all explained right here - http://www.kralik-glass.com/decornaming.html

Thanks everyone for your input.

Thanks!
Mark
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 09, 2012, 07:26:32 AM
We know LOL  ;) And the links worked just now weird!
Title: Re: Kralik period art nouveau?
Post by: markw78 on February 20, 2012, 08:08:21 PM
Tons of views and watches, but no bids... is $200 really too much or should I just be patient?