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Title: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: davtho on February 13, 2012, 12:37:10 PM
Can any one help to Identify this vase please,

Description:
inside is white the the back of the white is pink and shows through to the outside of the vase.
the next layre is greens and dark greens either combed or pulled.
the base is polished and there is a small 1mm hole in the base.
there are publes within the glass visable but can not be felt on the surface.

the vase is very heavy thick glass and is about 12" tall

I have looked all over and cant find any cluess

Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 13, 2012, 12:45:05 PM
Hi and welcome - I'm afraid your pics aren't working!

Have a dig around here - you'll find instructions on how to upload clickable thumbnail images directly to the board.

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/board,22.0.html
 :thup:
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: davtho on February 13, 2012, 12:54:58 PM
Hi and welcome - I'm afraid your pics aren't working!

Have a dig around here - you'll find instructions on how to upload clickable thumbnail images directly to the board.

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/board,22.0.html
 :thup:
Thanks sorted
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 13, 2012, 03:38:16 PM
Well done - and while you can still alter your post!
I'm afraid I can't help with your vase though. Hopefully, somebody else can.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: scavo on February 13, 2012, 06:41:10 PM
I would start by looking at the Maltese producers, also Carlo Moretti and Empoli stuff as there are similarities to all those things. I think someone will give an attribution quite soon as it looks familiar to me but I can't quite place it. It is lovely.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: scavo on February 13, 2012, 06:43:55 PM
Would it be possible to get a shot of the profile of the vase? a shot of the base from an angle that shows the level/quality of grinding or polishing could also help.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 13, 2012, 06:55:36 PM
Not any of the Maltese ones, no connection with Michael Harris at all, I'm afraid, scavo.
I think Empoli might be a much better bet.
I agree, it's nice.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: davtho on February 13, 2012, 08:38:41 PM
Would it be possible to get a shot of the profile of the vase? a shot of the base from an angle that shows the level/quality of grinding or polishing could also help.

Thanks for all the replies realy appreciate the help, this is the best shot I can get of the base, its flat and smooth.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: scavo on February 13, 2012, 08:44:26 PM
It looks completely different now.
It now looks less Empoli. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be Chinese.  Can you feel the shape of the pattern under the glass or is it completely smooth?
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: davtho on February 13, 2012, 09:23:03 PM
It looks completely different now.
It now looks less Empoli. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be Chinese.  Can you feel the shape of the pattern under the glass or is it completely smooth?
Scavo, it is smooth you can not feel the pattern at all
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: scavo on February 13, 2012, 09:25:44 PM
So that's not like the Empoli I have. More like Chinese stuff I have, but I am not familiar with this pattern - although I'm sure I've seen it somewhere before.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 14, 2012, 07:45:42 PM
Hmm, you can see the base in the first post - it's highly polished, flat and smooth.
Not a common feature of Chinese glass - but it is a very recent feature which I have started noticing in TKMaxx when I go for a nosey to see how well they're progressing.

I've got a massive combed Chinese vase, I do think this does look to be of rather better quality.
For a start - the colours have been chosen, not randomly grabbed at!  :ooh:
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: davtho on February 14, 2012, 10:42:29 PM
I have started noticing in TKMaxx

so you think this is a recent vase? with the base being so smooth
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 15, 2012, 07:20:40 AM
I don't think it's Chinese because the white inner is so thick and white. Chinese white linigs usually look like diluted milk. The colours are also subtle and not garish. And it's big but not huge! And the proportions are good.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 15, 2012, 10:59:07 AM
And I was saying I think not Chinese because the base is polished off nicely - what I did say is that nicely polished bases are only now starting to appear on contemporary Chinese glass.

But the concensus between Lustrousstone and myself is not contemporary Chinese.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: art-of-glass on February 15, 2012, 12:08:45 PM
I don't think it's Chinese because the white inner is so thick and white. Chinese white linigs usually look like diluted milk. The colours are also subtle and not garish. And it's big but not huge! And the proportions are good.

There are a lot of these kind of vases turning up at auction houses, being sold as "Murano type/style."
I have yet to see one with a label, but they are much better quality than the ones in TK Maxx.
I haven't seen the one in the pics above though. Very eye catching!

Dan
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 15, 2012, 12:17:03 PM
That might make Poland a possibility
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: scavo on February 15, 2012, 01:03:42 PM
But there is nothing to say that it isn't recent or contemporary, is there? I don't know enough to rule out Chinese.

Contemporary Polish also has to be considered. I've seen huge pieces of Polish glass at very reasonable prices. There the colours are considered and quite a skillful execution.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 15, 2012, 03:39:29 PM
I think we've concluded it's nice and well made but we don't know  :24:
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: davtho on February 15, 2012, 11:03:07 PM
And I was saying I think not Chinese because the base is polished off nicely - what I did say is that nicely polished bases are only now starting to appear on contemporary Chinese glass.

But the concensus between Lustrousstone and myself is not contemporary Chinese.
ahh thanks,

I am just starting to collect, I have admired glass for years but have never researched it until now and I am finding it fascinating.  I have decided to start collecting and this is my first peice.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 16, 2012, 04:57:44 PM
 :smg:
Another addict-in-the-making!
Welcome, yet again.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: scavo on February 16, 2012, 11:51:32 PM
Hang in there Davtho,

I find the answers to attribution questions completely by chance - often whilst I'm trying to ID something else. The key to any find of collecting is to buy what you like. Establish your own rules as you go along. Enjoy the learning process and hope the mistakes don't cost you too much.

If this is your first piece of glass then you obviously have an eye for the unusual. It's a nice piece of glass and I would have bought it if I'd seen it and it had been the right price.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 17, 2012, 12:04:32 PM
And a wonderful and exciting way to improve your understanding is to learn about how glass is made.
There are a fair few places you can go to watch glassmakers at work, if you tell us your rough location I'm sure we can point you in some interesting direction or other.

Once you've got hold of the idea of all the technical difficulties, you can make better judgements of the quality of a piece.  :thup:

Besides, it's just absolutely gob-smackingly fascinating to watch.  :smg:
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: davtho on February 17, 2012, 09:39:21 PM
Hang in there Davtho,

I find the answers to attribution questions completely by chance - often whilst I'm trying to ID something else. The key to any find of collecting is to buy what you like. Establish your own rules as you go along. Enjoy the learning process and hope the mistakes don't cost you too much.

If this is your first piece of glass then you obviously have an eye for the unusual. It's a nice piece of glass and I would have bought it if I'd seen it and it had been the right price.
Thanks, it was from a charity shop for my wifes birthday, she loved it and now has special memories for me and my Son, I think I paid £20.00, to me worth every penny.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: davtho on February 17, 2012, 09:42:43 PM
And a wonderful and exciting way to improve your understanding is to learn about how glass is made.
There are a fair few places you can go to watch glassmakers at work, if you tell us your rough location I'm sure we can point you in some interesting direction or other.

Once you've got hold of the idea of all the technical difficulties, you can make better judgements of the quality of a piece.  :thup:

Besides, it's just absolutely gob-smackingly fascinating to watch.  :smg:

Hi, I am from Newcastle.  The only place I know of is the Glass Centre in Sunderland, which I am planning on visiting, but if you know of others please let me know, I would love to learn how they work with glass.
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 18, 2012, 12:12:39 PM
A great place to start!  :thup:
Title: Re: Any help in ID a combed glass Vase
Post by: davtho on March 18, 2012, 08:03:26 AM
Thank you so much for your input, I guess this one is never going to be identified, but it was interesting to get input and advice thanks to you all