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Title: Dating Mdina Bowl
Post by: Greg. on February 22, 2012, 01:08:39 PM

Hi All,

Hoping to try and get a rough production date for this small Mdina bowl. Measures 4.5 inches tall and approx 4 inches in diameter, also fairly thick walled. Large amount of wear to base.

I think I recall seeing a similar one previously signed by Michael Harris, so wondered if this would date to pre 1972 or if these continued to be produced after that date...?

I've also included a picture next to a Chinese bowl to get a better idea of size.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Greg

Title: Re: Dating Mdina Bowl
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 22, 2012, 02:00:00 PM

I'm pretty sure it will be from the Michael Harris period, Greg. I think these tend to be described as bell-jars, and they're normally only seen in early colour designs - such as bubbly yellow insides cased in blue, (which was produced post-Harris, but not for too long) or Rosenthal.
It's almost like my tall Chinese bowl but without the characters!

Title: Re: Dating Mdina Bowl
Post by: Greg. on February 22, 2012, 02:39:51 PM

Thanks for the info Sue, much appreciated.  :thup:

Seems to sit quite happily next to the Chinese bowl.



 

Title: Re: Dating Mdina Bowl
Post by: glassobsessed on February 22, 2012, 05:57:14 PM

I would think 72 or earlier also. Although they did use bubbly yellow in blue after 72 the blue tends to be brighter and more uniform - far fewer streaks of ochre like in your very nice bell vase. :mrgreen:

These three Mdina bell vases live on top of a cupboard at the moment (the Chinese bowls are bell vases with extra bling to my eye), they share the space up there with some Isle of Wight bells too.

Title: Re: Dating Mdina Bowl
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 22, 2012, 07:03:02 PM

I'm telling folk that you're far better than I am at this stuff, John.  :smg: :smg: :smg:

It's true - your observation about the amber streak(s) is/are perfectly correct. I did take this into account when I was estimating the date for this bell jar, but forgot to bring it into conscious awareness..... :pb: 
so I didn't mention it.  :pb: :pb: :pb:

Title: Re: Dating Mdina Bowl
Post by: Greg. on February 22, 2012, 08:37:00 PM

Thanks both for the extra info.

That's a nice grouping of bell vases John, you don't see many Rosenthal ones around or crizzled ones to mention it, if any!

Would my example be best described as a bell-jar or bell vase or is that just semantics. Just wondered if the slightly smaller versions are described as bell-jars and the slightly larger ones bell vases..?

Thanks
Greg
 :)

Title: Re: Dating Mdina Bowl
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 22, 2012, 08:42:37 PM

 :pb:
Semantics - or maybe just me, Plathing around!