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Title: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: dinklepip on April 06, 2012, 09:54:01 AM

Acquired 11 of these crystal shotglasses yesterday at my local auction, I also have a matching jug as regards the style of crackle.   Can anyone confirm these are Loetz Kolomon Moser please as I am finding conflicting ID's on the net

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/cookiepops/DSCF5670.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/cookiepops/DSCF5671.jpg

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: flying free on April 06, 2012, 10:18:39 AM

Hi please could you upload your pictures directly to the site?  otherwise in future if anything happens to the site you have your pictures on, they are lost from the thread rendering the topic useless to others.
Many thanks :)
m

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: dinklepip on April 06, 2012, 10:20:18 AM

I have tried but keeps telling me file to big and I don't know how to make them smaller

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: dinklepip on April 06, 2012, 10:22:50 AM

trying this one

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: dinklepip on April 06, 2012, 10:23:26 AM

yayyyyyyyyyyy I finally did it durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: flying free on April 06, 2012, 11:16:40 AM

Nice!  I like them :)  and the crackle is a nice open crackle as well.  Can't really help further but have you been to Loetz.com where Alfredo I think has put a number of these jugs on display and discussed the maker id'd so far.
Also if you search the gmb (apologies if you already have), I believe there was a discussion on these as there are different variants I think.
m

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: dinklepip on April 06, 2012, 11:51:34 AM

thanks fly, corrrrrrrrrrrrrr all that beautiful glass on his site but I can't find the jugs ???

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: flying free on April 06, 2012, 12:01:39 PM

This is the article I remember reading - does your jug look like these?
http://sites.google.com/site/loetzandglass/loetz-the-km-pitcher
m

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: obscurities on April 06, 2012, 12:33:42 PM

Is that a flat ground bottom, or is there a pontil mark of some kind I do not see?

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: dinklepip on April 06, 2012, 01:11:55 PM

yes fly exactly the same as the clear ones

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: dinklepip on April 06, 2012, 01:13:00 PM

hi ob, the base is flat

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: Ivo on April 06, 2012, 01:17:31 PM

I seem to remember from a long time ago that we established that these were loosely based on a koloman moser design - but produced much later and redesigned by ? Was it Oliva? - there is an extensive thread in the archives for who wants to read the full story.

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: rocco on April 06, 2012, 03:21:42 PM

Smrckova for Ruckl it was.

Link to the thread Ivo refers to: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4919.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4919.0.html)

Michael

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: dinklepip on April 07, 2012, 09:57:37 AM

thanks for the link.  After reading it I am still confused. The shot glasses are crystal and yet the jug doesn't appear to be

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: flying free on April 07, 2012, 10:01:42 AM

Is your jug similar to the ones on the links here and please could you post a picture of it so we know what we are discussing?  There are a few clear ones on the link I provided and whilst I know you are referring to the bulbous ones with an all in handle there are also 2 versions of those, one with a pontil mark and one  without.
many thanks
m

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: dinklepip on April 07, 2012, 10:17:02 AM

here it is :)

Title: Re: Loetz Kolomon Moser?
Post by: obscurities on April 07, 2012, 01:08:18 PM

The flat ground and polished underside on the glasses would likely preclude it from being early Bohemian, as this was not a common practice at that time.