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Title: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: scavo on April 06, 2012, 03:29:15 PM: Lovely optical illusion, cut glass lighter.

Clues from the lighter: none! Other than it's butane.

I would assume this was Czech but I have not evidence.
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: petet63 on April 06, 2012, 04:19:29 PM: Not much help but I saw a glass cube identical in shape but clear in colour. It didnt have the lighter attached so assumed it was a candle holder. I didnt find much about it but saw one somewhere else described as a retro cubist candleholder 60's/70's. Will look into it some more. Pete
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: dirk. on April 06, 2012, 04:43:23 PM: German or Austrian would be another option. I´ve seen this piece with a label
reading ´handgeschliffen´, which means hand-cut. Unfortunately there wasn´t
another label with the maker, but I regularly see this piece on ebay.de.
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: scavo on April 06, 2012, 04:51:33 PM: Thanks Dirk.

I tend to think these are derivative of the Rudolf Jumikl design for a candle holder. Or are they older, Art Deco (designs) developed upon by Jumikl for his candle holder.

If there are any on ebay.de now could you send me a link please? I wouldn't know where to start on German ebay!
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: dirk. on April 06, 2012, 07:49:48 PM: From the label I remember I would tend towards 60´s or 70´s. They are quite close to
Jurnikl´s design indeed, but given the time frame I wouldn´t necessarily say one
inspired the other. Cubes and circles are such a characteristic design element of that time
it may just be a coincidence. One might also call them both inspired by Vasarely´s Op-Art
works. ;)
But who knows...
Found one - unlabelled - on ebay:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Glas-Feuerzeug-mit-Aschenbecher-/290694110417?pt=Design_Stil&hash=item43aeb81cd1
I´ll keep an open eye. :)
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: scavo on April 06, 2012, 07:57:23 PM: Thanks. Yes, Vasarely. They have a few of his paintings in Glasgow City Art Gallery. I used to enjoy looking at those when I was up there.
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: astrid on April 09, 2012, 08:12:21 PM: I remember an earlier discussion about the differences. The lines on the Jurnikl cubes are slightly curved, the lines of this one are completely straight.

Astrid
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: scavo on April 09, 2012, 10:54:32 PM: I have both the lighter and the Junikl candle holder. They are very different. I should have photographed them together.
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: mrs vulture on April 10, 2012, 07:28:32 AM: These lighters are very common, My husband has two, a pale blue and a clear one just for ornaments as he dosen't smoke. We see at least one or two a week on local car boots. Mostly they have the corners chipped off. The Junikl cube is different. The glass is much more rounded and nicer to touch. cheryl
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: Ivo on April 10, 2012, 08:41:12 AM: I had one in a similar setup and the lighter had a small oval label on it "made in Italy".
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: scavo on April 10, 2012, 12:04:04 PM: Here is the lighter with Janikl and another unidentified, slightly larger tealight holder.

Mine doesn't have the corners chipped off. But it is interesting to know they were a popular design. When you look at them closely there is a lot of work gone into the cutting. not only is each surface beveled out, each edge is beveled and each corner is polished off to remove the points.

Ivo, I wonder if the design was made in different places?
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: Ivo on April 10, 2012, 12:09:18 PM: could be just the lighter...
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: scavo on April 10, 2012, 04:13:02 PM: I did think of that but I didn't want to sound rude.

I must say, in reality the difference between the 3 in the photo is not as stark as it is when you handle them.
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: dirk. on June 10, 2012, 06:48:25 AM: Just to confuse things further... Been to a flea-market in Belgium on Friday where I
saw this design with a VSL label... :-\
Title: Re: Cut glass, blue, cubic lighter. Czech?
Post by: scavo on July 13, 2012, 11:43:12 AM: Just seen one in green on facebook and the poster says it has "KJ genuine cut crystal" label. A google image search returns no results.