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Title: Cenedese Fish?
Post by: chrisffc on April 06, 2012, 08:08:42 PM

Hi Guys! :)

Is this a candese fish? Extremely heavy and very well executed. No inclusions in the glass. My only other thought was perhaps Caithness.

Thanks :)

Chris
www.haybarnglass.co.uk

Title: Re: Candese Fish?
Post by: rosieposie on April 07, 2012, 11:43:18 AM

Hi Chris,  do you mean Cenedese?  If so, it might be worth asking a Mod to change the title for you so Cenedese attracts those with more knowledge.

Are there any markings at all on it?

I don't think it is Caithness,  but I could be wrong,  I don't 'do' fish I'm afraid.

I found this....does it help?

http://www.tartanandzebra.com/product/DEC-VIN-1001/Murano+glass+fish+in+gold

Title: Re: Candese Fish?
Post by: flying free on April 07, 2012, 12:26:56 PM

I recognise the fish I think, but wracking my brains I can't think of the maker at the moment.
I don't think it was Cenedese though.
m

Title: Re: Candese Fish?
Post by: rosieposie on April 07, 2012, 12:30:56 PM

I'm sure you are right  m,  I think one was discussed on here before,  but I don't know where to start looking!! :-\

Title: Re: Candese Fish?
Post by: flying free on April 07, 2012, 12:49:40 PM

toso? or luigi onesto? maybe  it looks similar to a Fratelli Toso fish I think?
m

Title: Re: Candese Fish?
Post by: glassobsessed on April 07, 2012, 12:51:14 PM

It may well be from Caithness, not an exact match to the 'Bob the Fish' from their Zoo range but definitely a strong contender to my eye. If anyone has Mark Hill's book on Caithness their Zoo is shown on page 124.

Nothing like the following Cenedese fish that is packed full of uranium (this is the only photo of it I have at present) it is about 25 long. I imagine Cenedese produced other styles of fish too, as it happens I am waiting for what I hope is a Cenedese starfish to arrive too.

John

Title: Re: Candese Fish?
Post by: glassobsessed on April 07, 2012, 12:53:44 PM

Here is Bob: http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=1782&flypage=flypage.tpl&pop=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=6

How big is your fish Chris?

Title: Re: Candese Fish?
Post by: chrisffc on April 07, 2012, 01:15:14 PM

Hi guys
Thank you for your info.
I did indeed mean Cenedese lol (spelling is awful and I'm a teacher)

I think I have found the answer though, what do you think???

www.flickriver.com/photos/art-of-glass/tags/poggi/

Mine is identical except for the colour.

Title: Re: Candese Fish?
Post by: flying free on April 07, 2012, 01:21:12 PM

I think that's a great match  ;D and is probably where I saw it searching for one I had but mine was a different colour/scavo and maker.
Have you searched here on the board now for Gambaro e Poggi?  may be more will come up.
m

Title: Re: Cenedese Fish?
Post by: rosieposie on April 08, 2012, 09:58:51 AM

Hi Chris,  yes, m is correct,  there is one here on the board somewhere,  I know I have seen it. 
At one time I had all the Caithness animals, so was sure it wasn't one of theirs, but I just knew it had been featured here somewhere. It might be worth adding the word scavo to the search....I'll have a go as well.......race you to find it!!

Title: Re: Cenedese Fish?
Post by: rosieposie on April 08, 2012, 10:02:42 AM

Here it is Chris!!  ....Anita listed it....and it even has a video of your fish being made........

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,38375.msg211628.html#msg211628

and just by way of reassurance:

http://www.italiandecor-glasslights.com/inc/sdetail/gambaro___poggi_murano_glass_argento_goldfish_figurines/680/692/

Enjoy!

Title: Re: Cenedese Fish?
Post by: KevinH on April 08, 2012, 02:44:14 PM

Before giving this one an "ID" in the title, I'd like to raise some other points ...

Are we sure Chris's piece is by "Gambaro e Poggi"? The couple of "G & P" examles shown, and particularly the one in the video in the other thread, have additional and well balanced decoration to the interior and they also have coloured eyes. Chris's has clear eyes and what seems to be a plain coloured inner section that does not appear to "fill" the body.

Chris ... you say that yours is identical (in form) to the "G & P" ones. But what about the size? And with only your single picture, we cannot see the detail of how the tail is actually formed. Maybe it really is "G & P", but I wonder about the much plainer look.

Title: Re: Cenedese Fish?
Post by: TxSilver on April 08, 2012, 08:37:20 PM

There is a G&P fish in the zoo that has the same colors, but a different form. I haven't commented on the fish because it is a design that was done by a few companies. G&P was my first thought, but something about the eyes and mouth made me hesitate. There is a lot of variation in the G&P pieces, though, so it could be.

Title: Re: Cenedese Fish?
Post by: TxSilver on April 08, 2012, 08:43:49 PM

Chris, if you give us a complete view from the side so we can see the layering and the tail, it would help a lot.

Title: Re: Cenedese Fish?
Post by: rosieposie on April 09, 2012, 10:21:19 AM

Could this one be of any help in identifying your fish Chris?  Just found it this morning....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Murano-Glass-Fish-Paperweight-1980s-/180858416675