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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: glassobsessed on April 11, 2012, 10:58:28 AM
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Well I assume it is a tea caddy (there are two of them), I guess the lid is too small for a biscuit barrel. I have been trying to identify the maker from the decor but have found nothing conclusive so far.
A clear glass body with coloured chips marvered in, trailed decoration and iridescent finish, the metal fittings I can only describe as tin (no markings). It stands about 16cm tall and 10cm square.
Any ideas?
John
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A couple showing the iridescence:
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Looks like a Kralik oil spot ???
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Thanks Christine. It could well be but I found it hard to make a positive ID from the photos I have found, none seem to have quite this colour combination or the detail needed for me to be confident about it being the same production process. The chips have not been completely marvered in, in places you can feel a slight texture as a result.
John
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John I haven't looked but I sometimes find that checking Alfredo's inkwells for things like this can be helpful strangely. I don't know why but sometimes seeing a decor in a smaller shape helps to clarify it....mmm maybe it's just me ;D but might be worth looking at them anyway to see if you can see a similarity between them and your jar (which I love btw).
m
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Thanks m, although I had already had a look that is an interesting point about the smaller examples, Alfredo does show inkwells in oil spot (red and blue).
If I knew you could just feel some of the the chips on those examples I would be happier. There are quite a few bits of Kralik to be found which have trailed decoration in the same aubergine/brown glass. Perhaps I am being over cautious.
John
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I have two pieces where you can feel the texture, but they don't look as raised as yours.
pics attached - this one named 'green papillon' is I think actually Loetz oilspot or so it seemed from Alfredo's site if I remember. The other is my powder box which has more spread out spots.
Can't find a pic of that at the mo though.
oooh, actually yours reminds me of Loetz Cisele ! or maybe a Kralik variant if their is one?
m
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Interesting possibility m, both Loetz Cisele and Papillon seem to have little texture, I have handled a bit of Papillon and that is how I remember it.
A difference with this bit seems to be that the 'spots' are in two colours, green and brown, other examples appear to be single colour.
Edited to add: apart from Kralik's Multi Coloured Oil Spot... http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralikoilspotmulticolorarray.html
John
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could it be Glasfabrik Elizabeth? I found some pieces in my Millers book that looked a similar effect then looking it up on the net I found this.
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/8742524
m
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That's interesting m thank you, just had a look in Judith Millers' 20th Century Glass too, Glasfabrik Elizabeth aka Pallme Koenig. Is it a case of attributing anything with trailing to PK? The auction blurb claims a reference at the Passau Museum which is interesting but I have read that some of their attributions have been questioned.
Either way, that tea caddy in the auction is the same maker I reckon, same cut off corners, etc, etc. After another trawl around looking at PK images, if I had to choose one or the other now, I would just hedge my bets towards Kralik but not by much. Which basically means I am still ???.
But enjoying the ride!
John
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have you checked Alfredo's Teplitz lampshades - I haven't had a good look at them but sometimes there are decor links that I find there :)
Pallme Konig
http://sites.google.com/site/loetzandglass/pallme-konig--r--williamson-s-teplitz-shades
m
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Yes.. ;D But I am beginning to realise there is plenty of variety there and all sorts of coloured spotty finishes.
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mm, yes you are right! and I can't see any that have the all over spotty effect on a quick look.
m