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Title: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Chris Harrison on April 17, 2012, 03:36:00 PM

25 cm across.
Well-pressed and finished, though slightly mis-shaped.
Could it be a Bagley piece?

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 17, 2012, 05:40:13 PM

No, not Bagley.

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Tigerchips on April 17, 2012, 06:16:36 PM

Could be Greener with that star in the middle? Similar stars are found on Leerdam i think.

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Chris Harrison on April 18, 2012, 03:23:19 PM

Thanks for the comments, folks.

Christine:  I realise that this isn't in any of the documented Bagley stuff, but I found this at a car boot not far from Pontefract, and the star reminded me (however slightly) of the Bagley fish scale plate.

Tiger: Haven't found anything along those lines.  There is a five-pointed star on Leerdam piece, but that's all.

Today someone suggested it might be American, but that's way out of my comfort zone.

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 18, 2012, 03:30:15 PM

The star is not uncommon and I have seen it on known Inwald stuff. If the base rim is ground and polished, Inwald may be your answer.

The Bagely fish scale has fish tails in the middle and the "hole" is for easier drilling for the metal fitments that became so popular in the UK. Note the reinforced rim.

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Tigerchips on April 18, 2012, 04:00:56 PM

Some of the points of the star are different sizes, with the inner ones being smaller. Are the Inwald stars like that?

I was thinking of this one when i posted earlier... http://www.inchicore-pressedglass-museum.org/0496-2.htm

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Chris Harrison on April 18, 2012, 04:02:59 PM

Fish tails?  I thought it was a Yorkshire rose!  Must take another look.

Inwald did cross my mind, but I couldn't find anything like it in the books, either for Inwald or Rudolfova - or owt else, for that matter!

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Chris Harrison on April 18, 2012, 04:07:56 PM

Thanks, TC.  That muddies things nicely. 
Do we have any Jobling experts on board?

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 18, 2012, 06:34:13 PM

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If the base rim is ground and polished, Inwald may be your answer.

Is the base rim polished and shiny?

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Chris Harrison on April 18, 2012, 10:06:59 PM

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Is the base rim polished and shiny?

Yes, 'tis.

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 19, 2012, 06:33:13 AM

Inwald seems likely then

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Chris Harrison on April 19, 2012, 06:41:20 PM

Thanks, Christine.

I've never seen an Inwald plate, other than from the suites in Markhbein catalogues.  Mightn't this perhaps be a little too "modern"?

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 19, 2012, 06:59:46 PM

Too modern for the company that made the Barolac ranges?

Title: Re: Octagonal pressed plate with sunflower or daisy pattern
Post by: Chris Harrison on April 20, 2012, 08:44:31 AM

Fair enough.  In my head I always associate Barolac more with Jenkins than Inwald, for some reason, although it was Inwald that actually produced it, of course.