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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: dorian_graye on May 15, 2012, 08:46:43 PM
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I bought this vase because I was intrigued by the color and shape. I can't remember coming across a red that was so deep like an "oxblood" or "pigeon's blood". The shape of the vase and craftsmanship is simply flawless. It looks perfect. I'm not sure where it might have been produced. My original thought was that it's Italian. The rim of the vase is odd too. It has an applied line of opaque red glass around the edge and I think the rim has been polished too. There seems to be a lot going on for this to be something store bought or Chinese. Perhaps someone has seen this color of glass before. It measures 10" inches tall.
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9228/img1349e.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/137/img1349e.jpg/)
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6562/img1350az.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/img1350az.jpg/)
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1162/img1351sm.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/img1351sm.jpg/)
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3207/img1352j.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/img1352j.jpg/)
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Can anyone else confirm that these links are not working properly? Or is it only for certain people? Thank you.
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Not working for me I am in the UK
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They work for me in the UK, but as I said elsewhere I don't have pop-ups blocked
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Image Shack causes my security software to flash a virus warning, so I don't go there now.
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No problem seeing them and I'm in the uk. I believe the glass is quite recent polish or russian.
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What are the tell tale signs that this is a recent Polish or Russian piece?
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Added....
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Heavy.
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Do you mean heavy handed or bottom heavy?
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Everything about it is heavyhanded. Thick cased, clear scrolls attached - just heavvy.
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I thought it rather elegant and well crafted. Oh well. No accounting for taste I guess. :'(
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I thought it rather elegant and well crafted. Oh well. No accounting for taste I guess. :'(
It is not a matter of taste or elegance - more an instance where you use scales to get an appriximate ID. The weight of the piece tells you it is not from Germany, not from Sweden, not from Holland and not from England. After which you're stuck with an attribution to Poland, Portugal or Romania....
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Why not Italy?
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because LSA or Krosno are MUCH more likely.
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I just went on a search to see if I could find anything like it on the Krosno website, and was sorry to see that the company went into liquidation on 27 March 2009! Another one bites the dust. :'(
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If you say so Ivo. Your expertise far surpasses mine. Thank you SO much for your help. ;)
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This one on ebay reminded me of the vase, obviously no handles but a ruffle instead, has a Tarnowiec label too:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280888823906
Not quite cranberry to my eye. ;D
John
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Bubbles - I found out a while ago that Krosno is a glassmaking area - one with several glassworks, not a single one on its own.
I used to see a lot of lovely contemporary glass with Krosno labels, then suddenly, they stopped and all the glass I saw in a similar vein was labelled LSA - which is an importing and exporting company.
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Thanks for that info Sue! I did wonder whether Krosno was just the name of a distributing company.
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Thanks for the Ebay link, John. Shame there aren't better photos of that vase. I'd like to see more detail and how the base is finished. The color of that is a bit similar, but not near as deep. The most curious thing about my vase is that thin, opaque glass around the edge of the rim and how it's been polished down to a more crisp finish.
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There might be more details in this link. I suspect the listing is misattributed....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190687489846?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
But I do like a nice bit of Tarnowiec!
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Well, clearly the Tarnow piece doesn't have a polished pontil.
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I don't know how you can tell from that image - I cant.
I have a large Tarnoweic fazzoletto vase - which does have a polished pontil mark. It is not round, but occupies a large section of the polished flat base.
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You didn't scroll down to see the enlargements of the vase? Looks obvious to me.
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Yes, I did, which was why I put the pics in - you wanted to see more pics of the vase/bottle, and I had the link to hand. I cannot tell from the pic of the base whether or not there is a polished mark in the middle there.
I don't have a pic to hand, of the base of my piece to show the mark.
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Bumped into another Tarnowiec vase today (the handles don't show up clearly in this snap):
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For your consideration, here is a link to a cased version of this vase: http://www.glaskilian.de/Moderne-UEberfangglas-Vase.101+B6YmFja1BJRD0xMDEmTD0xJnByb2R1Y3RJRD0yNDQwNCZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD0xMDEmZGV0YWlsPQ__.0.html
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But no manufacturer
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I just wanted to add that Polish glass has got a whole variety of base finishes. I've got two Tarnowiec vases which are identical in shape and style, but different when it comes to the base -- one is completely polished and smooth, the other is polished with a concave pontil mark clearly visible in the center.
Some Polish pieces also have highly polished flat bases and some are left with a very rough and jagged mark where the pontil was snapped off...
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Proof positive: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item2a1ef66b45&item=180908092229&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=h%252FoxulqkAwLg35n6AwodbrYDDBw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_500wt_1190