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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: flying free on May 22, 2012, 02:23:20 PM
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I posted this on the end of another thread and speculated as to whether it may be a Stuart piece.
I now wonder if it could be Thomas Webb? It has a 6 way crimped rim folded slightly inwards but between each fold is a 'crease' which I don't have in my larger Stuart peacock eye vase.
It also has a small blob of glass in the centre of the base of the foot as though it was covering up a pontil mark (sorry no photo as no camera at the mo) - this is something that Goyjus commented on a bullseye goblet id'd as Thomas Webb in another thread.
In addition, I believe I read somewhere on here that Webb's 'Cats Eyes' vases did not have an 'eye' in the middle of the pad of coloured glass at the top of the peacock trail. The Thomas Webb's 'Cats Eyes' is also a phrase referred to by Charles Hajdamach in British Glass 1800-1914 page 436 top row right hand diagram where he states 'Posy Bowl with 'Cats Eyes' teardrops - design no 27414 (although this diagram does look as though there is a colour in the centre of the pad).
I can't find similar in Gullivers, nor the Glass Association Journal 1997 vol5 nor in my Harrods adverts of 1907 which I believe feature Stuart pieces.
I am wondering if this could be a Webb's Cats Eyes vase?
It measures 5 5/16" tall, 3 3/4" diameter across the cup and the foot is 2 3/8" diameter. It is clearly old and there is so much wear in a wide ring around the base it practically looks ground it is so matt.
Any thoughts or information much appreciated
Many thanks
m
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That's interesting,not seen one like that before,is there gilding on the rim,looks a bit like a hyacinth vase ;D
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thanks for looking and responding :)
No there is no gilding on the rim, it's a firepolished crimped rim and that's just a light reflection.
It isn't a hyacinth vase I don't believe as I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be enough room for the roots, although it was advertised as that.
m
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http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1901.msg48443.html#msg48443
here should be the information I found on another thread regarding the Webb's 'peacock' eye trailed vases looking similar to Stuart but without the central eye.
m
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It seems.as others have said that this design was copied by many and sorting out who did what requires more research,I'd like to get a look at the Webb pattern books,Broadfield House has many records I'll have to pop over one of the days they are only a couple of miles away ;D ;D