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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: davem on May 24, 2012, 06:58:36 AM
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Hi ,
Is this Murano ?
Measures approx 14" high with wear on the base , has a ground pontil and some stretch marks to the glass . Many thanks for any help , I've found similar Sommerso shapes but none quite the same. Dave.
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/ebay2025dave/IMG_3375.jpg
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/ebay2025dave/IMG_3386.jpg
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/ebay2025dave/IMG_3382.jpg
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No...
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Thank's !
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Hi Davem, It is an attractive piece of glass, and appears, as you say, to have some age to it, and is well finished off with a neatened and ground pontil mark, so I can see why you might think it was Murano.
Kane, your brief answer has left me baffled....usually when one of us is positive about an attribution being incorrect, we at least explain where our doubts lay and in some cases even suggest further possible makers or avenues of research.
Davem is a relatively new member, and has in previous threads been very complimentary of our GMB, so maybe Kane, you or someone with more knowledge of glass vases than I have, would give a little more helpful direction to him?
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Hi Dave, shows how much I know 'cos I would have said yes ;D
Chinese then could be the next option :'(
Mod: Off topic para in post edited in line with Board Policy
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Dave I agree it is not likely to be Murano. The trouble lies in the fact that many vases of this type were sold with paper labels which are removed/lost/washed off with use/etc. There is then no way to identify the maker. Just looking at your first photo as an inexperienced collector the makers could include Murano, Japan, Val St Lambert(Belgium), any number of Swedish makers, Whitefriars, Bohemia, etc. etc.
So most of us have specialties that we are more confident in than other areas. Experience usually allows one to determine where a piece comes from - especially if you have seen dozens of that maker. BUT it is easy to be fooled. See the first photo below. I thought it was Murano at first and then perhaps Bohemia - in fact it comes from Newcastle. NSW, Australia.
Murano became very well known for the style of thick, clear glass over;lays in then 1950s and 1960s but at the same toime lots of others were making similar things and in some cases for at least 20 years - they just were not as well known.
Most of us use the base photo and a photo of the rim to narrow the field of possibilities. For instance a base that is flat and polished is more likely to be Murano or Bohemia but even that is not always so. I doubt you will get a manufacturer unless someone has seen one with a label. Experience tells you taht Stuart Crystal, Orrefors, and Kosta Boda are highly likely to be engraved or scratch marked and pieces that purport to be that without those marks are very unlikely to be what is claimed.
I suggest you take the time to look through some of the "Themed" topics shown in thew top section of the Glass screen - you will get some idea of the beadth of knowledge willing to help.
Ross
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One last point I forgot. When you post to this board please do not post links but rather do it directly using the attach section which is below this writing part. This is because photobucket and similar places remove photos after ma time and then the link becomes useless. Posting it here it remains "forever".
Photos should be as close to 124.99Kb which you can achieve by resizing. There is I believe an upper limit on dimensions of 999 in either direction. Photos will automatically expand to proper size with a single click. You can do this with the one I posted in the previous message.
Ross
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Hmmmmmm......
Do not think is Murano either IMHO....but I think I have seen something like it somewhere.
Could it be Japanese? As I am just thinking out loud here......?
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It is not Whitefriars nor is it Bohemian, though it might be Czech. I don't think it's Chinese. The quality is good and it is well finished, but unfortunately hot-worked glass can be difficult to ID
Ross: Bohemia ceased to exist post World War One with the formation of Czechoslovakia. Bohemian glass is generally of the "Victorian to Edwardian" era.
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Sorry. I got frustrated after 5 mins of waiting for pics to download. Not everyones internet is fast! Posting pics to the board directly would be beneficial to us that sometime have very slow internet speeds.
You can rule out Chinese. In my opinon you can look at a Japanese maker. This style and the way red colour is styled over the clear glass leans my opinion to Japan. I see many various shapes of vases and bowls in either this red and clear glass, blue and clear glass and less common, green and clear glass here.
Daves country of origin would also be helpful.
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Members' "country of origin or location" seems to have disappeared................at least on my computer, on all threads
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Oh it has too! Just noticed. Shame. It does help.
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It's still there in your profiles but not showing up front. Perhaps Anne can have a poke with her big stick
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Oh heck, so it has, wonder why? It was here earlier. I'll go poke it - maybe it's gone on its jollies now the summer's arrived at last! ;D
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OK, apparently the Location add-on we were using no longer works in the new version of the board, so I've sorted out an alternative. To save everyone having to make their own changes I'll see if I can do it globally with a database hack. For new member signups a country will now be a required field.
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Due to the way that the old and new Location fields are recorded in the database it's not possible to convert the data globally, so would members please update their own profiles to reflect their location. Thanks!
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Thank's for all of your nice comments and help with this one and I'm terribly sorry for my delay in coming back here since my last post . I'm a fisherman in Ireland and had to go out to sea for an unplanned few days .
If Ireland can help with this one then great :)
I first got this because I thought it was Murano , then in my searches for similar ground pontil shapes and colours came across Whitefriars but had to rule that out also :(
I ruled out China due to wear on base and hadn't thought about Japan.
I will suss the posting pics straight here also rather than links .
KR Dave.
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You have my total respect Davem, anyone who will go out to sea to catch the fish so many take for granted on their table, does not have to apologise for taking a couple of days out from the GMB to do their job.
I do hope you find the maker of your glass, and in the meantime, safe sailing and bountiful fishing.