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Title: Heavy, bubbly vase -- German? Or...?
Post by: rocco on May 24, 2012, 02:10:24 PM
Purchased this via ebay.de, not knowing what it was; now that it has arrived it is far more attractive than I had imagined, but regarding ID I am not a bit wiser...

Stands 15.5 cm tall, thickwalled and quite heavy, blueish-grey with loads of slightly yellowish bubbles and some dark inclusions, thickly cased in colourless glass.
Softly indented base with circular polished pontil mark, unsigned.

I would think the whole thing is hotworked, but maybe only the rim is...

My first guess are the German makers like Gral-Glas, WMF, Zwiesel. But other options may be Benny Motzfeldt, or even Leerdam?

Thanks for any help,
Michael
Title: Re: Heavy, bubbly vase -- German? Or...?
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 24, 2012, 04:55:51 PM
Have you looked very carefully around the edge of the base for a mark - it looks a little bit Peill & Putzler to me...
Title: Re: Heavy, bubbly vase -- German? Or...?
Post by: Ivo on May 24, 2012, 05:41:22 PM
Google schleiergraphit
Title: Re: Heavy, bubbly vase -- German? Or...?
Post by: rocco on May 24, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Thanks Sue and Ivo!

I did think of Peill due to the colour, but somehow it didn't fit with the Schleiergraphit pieces I have seen so far.
(And I wouldn't mind at all if it was Peill)

No mark anywhere, I had checked that very carefully.

And though the colour does look similar, I haven't seen a hotworked piece like this, nor one with this amount of small bubbles in additon to the (bigger) grey bubbles from Peill... (which certainly doesn't mean much :) )

Michael
Title: Re: Heavy, bubbly vase -- German? Or...?
Post by: antiquerose123 on May 25, 2012, 05:43:00 AM
Google schleiergraphit

Bless you........

Oh, I thought you Sneezed......Lol                  That was a mouthful for Glass  ;D
Title: Re: Heavy, bubbly vase -- German? Or...?
Post by: dirk. on May 25, 2012, 06:45:20 AM
Think Iīve seen it described as Gralglas somewhere, but canīt confirm since I havenīt
the book at hand. Nice one!
Title: Re: Heavy, bubbly vase -- German? Or...?
Post by: rocco on May 25, 2012, 07:35:53 AM
Thanks Dirk! Yes, it is really nice, I actually didn't really want to buy it, just bid a small sum and won it to my surprise 8)

I have looked 2 times through the Gralglas book yesterday, but couldn't find a real match.
I shall browse the CD and see if I can find something similar....

EDIT: found it -- it is Gralglas! :)
PN is F 502/16/30, design gralglas-Atelier.
It is pictured in "Glaskiste" 27 / 1969, 27---06

Michael
Title: Re: Heavy, bubbly vase -- German? Or...?
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 25, 2012, 08:52:51 AM
Well done Michael and Dirk ;D
- I really wasn't sure about it being schleiergraphit.  :-[
Title: Re: Heavy, bubbly vase -- German? Or...?
Post by: astrid on May 25, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
The schleiergraphit vases of Peill & Putzler I've seen so far are not cased in clear glass, that might be one way to tell the difference. Unless someone has seen cased versions?

Astrid
Title: Re: Heavy, bubbly vase -- German? Or...?
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 25, 2012, 09:21:31 AM
I've just been looking very carefully, Astrid. I have at least 3 bits of shleiergraphit which are cased - having a thick, clear base.
Although there are a few trails of bubbles in the casing, these bubbles are all absolutely clear - and they form an outer layer of bubbles which contributes to the overall three-dimensional effect.
Some of my pieces are badly water-marked (they came from ebay), and there seems to be a problem with water getting into some bubbles - so sometimes you can see vaguely yellow colours.

Anyway - this piece is Gralglas!  ;D
Title: Re: Heavy, bubbly vase -- German? Or...?
Post by: rocco on May 25, 2012, 07:59:13 PM
Dirk is a star :)

Some more info from the CD-Rom: this range was featured as a novelity in a 1969 advertisment, and is found in the Gralglas price list 1971 in 6 shapes. It isn't included in the 1975 price list any more.
Prize of my vase was nearly 50,- DM in 1971, quite an impressive sum for that time I think. (The Livio Seguso bird in the 1975 list cost less)
Maybe the range wasn't commercially successful...
According to the colour codes 30 should be "Ink" -- described as inky purple(?).

Michael