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Title: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: petet63 on June 18, 2012, 05:35:19 PM
Here are the pictures of the Amber pot. It is 15cm across the base and 13cm across the pot and 9cm high. It seems to be made as one piece to me, the thickness in the middle at the base is not double thickness.
Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 18, 2012, 05:52:31 PM
It's a honey or preserve pot and Stölzle I would guess
Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: petet63 on June 18, 2012, 06:13:38 PM
Forgot to mention that there was another pot the same size without the saucer part and it didn't have the lip on it that the lid sits on.
Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 18, 2012, 06:45:55 PM
How about a sugar bowl for that one.
Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: petet63 on June 18, 2012, 08:20:37 PM
That would be the way to go most likely. The swag design does seem familiar and I will see what I can find. Thanks Lustrousstone  :)
Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: petet63 on June 19, 2012, 09:26:37 AM
I mentioned this piece to Anne in the '3 footed sugar' link and she suggested a butter dish. Butter or preserve looks likely. not found the pattern yet but got the word Deckeldosen which loosely translates as a box with lid  ;D ;D so not too helpful lol.
Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 19, 2012, 10:33:57 AM
Butters tend not to have upright sides or if they do very shallow ones and to have lips rather than saucers. The saucer is for your spoon and to catch any drips
Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: petet63 on June 19, 2012, 01:23:58 PM
That does make sense. I might list it as Deckeldosen  ;D ;D Preserve dish it is. I cant find the pattern yet. It looks really good with the sun shining in the window, it makes the amber come to life (Yes..I did say Sunshine) Someone will get a nice piece and that makes me happy so smiles all round.  Thanks for your time Lustrous, much appreciated. Pete
Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: Anne on June 19, 2012, 03:55:35 PM
I think Christine's right - it looks like the Stoelzle / Hermanova pattern 18750?

Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: petet63 on June 19, 2012, 04:44:10 PM
Thanks to both of you. I searched all this afternoon but could not find where I had seen the pattern. I must organise my search results better.
Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: Jayne on July 11, 2020, 11:29:59 PM
I think Christine's right - it looks like the Stoelzle / Hermanova pattern 18750?



I agree, Stolzle 18750 looks like a positive ID for the Honey Dish.

The dish and the #18750 image also seem to be a match for Mystery Trinket Set #47

https://www.glasstrinketsets.com/Gallery/thumbnails.php?album=50
Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: NevB on July 12, 2020, 11:30:34 AM
As per my post on Mystery #145 I think it has the wavy rim like 145 rather than the zig zag rim of Mystery #47.
Title: Re: Amber dish with attached Saucer ?
Post by: Jayne on August 30, 2022, 11:16:59 PM
I think Christine's right - it looks like the Stoelzle / Hermanova pattern 18750?


This dish seems to have been identified as Stolzle Hermanova pattern no 18750.

I believe the same dish appears on the Victorian Pressed Glass website in the Clayton Mayers Catalogue on page 102 in the Jewelray Table Crystal section as "Covered Butter 3'3 each"

Could we perhaps then assume Stolzle Hermanova are the manufacturers of Jewelray and therefore the makers of Mystery Trinket Set 47?

http://www.victorianpressedglass.com/pdf/clayton_mayers.pdf

https://www.glasstrinketsets.com/Gallery/thumbnails.php?album=50

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,27232.msg399175.html#msg399175