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Title: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: adam20 on July 21, 2012, 10:48:50 AM

Hi - Looking for an ID with this stylized clear textured glass bird with black/white eye on black wire legs, is 8" high

Thanks Adam

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: kitty-kat1234 on July 21, 2012, 11:12:29 AM

I know nothing  ::)  ;D but at a guess its a homemade one as in someone who does leadlight.
Speaking of which i may make some in different colours,its very,very cute.

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: adam20 on July 21, 2012, 11:17:18 AM

Thanks - the glass is over an inch thick and textured with an eye that is in the blowing not applied, it doesn't look home made but I may be wrong, if I were to guess I'd say Pukeberg or a german maker 70s or 80s.

Adam

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: kitty-kat1234 on July 21, 2012, 11:27:44 AM

Hi Adam,see i started with "i know nothing"  ;D so i am happy to be wrong too  ;D

It looks like the foil is coming loose or lifting on the side abit,its copper foil then lightly soldered over.
The hole in the glass is done with a diamond drill bit,carefully,as far as the silver around the eye goes i have not done that,but will be willing to have a go.

As i said its cute & someone with knowledge may say otherwise.

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: adam20 on July 21, 2012, 11:35:52 AM

Thanks - some close ups ....

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: Ivo on July 21, 2012, 11:47:52 AM

hommage to Alessandro Pianon for Vistosi? This was a bit of an icon for the 1950s. No flatbirds sighted as yet, however...
http://www.artfact.com/artist/pianon-alessandro-lepyffuyya

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: mrvaselineglass on July 21, 2012, 11:50:20 AM

Adam20:
Do some research on this.  There is an Italian artist, Alessandro Pianon who made a whole series of birds in the 1960's with stick feet and I believe that this is part of that series.  I once saw one that was a cube, with added eyes and feet.  I also have seen when they are properly identified, they sell for big money.   Do a google image search for VISTOSI BIRDS and you will find smiliar shapes, plus a whole lot more.  I have seen a bird sell for $3500 USD.  Not all birds sell for that kind of money, but in a good contemporary modern glass auction with good coverage, your bird could be a money bird!

Dave Peterson

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: adam20 on July 21, 2012, 12:07:20 PM

Thanks - there is same as mine listed on eBay and one that recently sold ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item3cc5f069f2&item=261018905074&nma=true&pt=UK_Art_Glass&rt=nc&si=dewxf1tSoh2QhP7oFTHSSm0c%252FnE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_1053wt_922

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 21, 2012, 12:11:33 PM

Yours is very cute, but I really do not think it could be Vistosi - the legs are attached differently - there are no glass " trousers" at the top. The Vistosi birds are well known, I think it highly unlikely there is an undiscovered flat, clear, trouserless one - far less two of them! (yours and the ebay one)

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: kane_u_pain on July 21, 2012, 12:15:14 PM

My opinion is that the legs are wrong. I would consider a Scandi copy. I could be wrong. But these 2 pieces, yours and the ebay listing look wrong for a Vistosi.

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: kitty-kat1234 on July 21, 2012, 12:16:46 PM

Thank goodness,i was going to say
"Please don't tell me i called some fab designer's piece,a homemade job"
  :o :-[

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: mrvaselineglass on July 21, 2012, 12:24:17 PM

In looking back at the additional photos, I think the other people posting are right.  'no trousers'.  Just someone taking the idea and modifying it.  It seems that most of the original Vistosi pieces were blown.  I did not dig deep enough to see if any are solid glass pieces.

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: adam20 on July 21, 2012, 12:28:46 PM

Thanks

I do not think this is Vistosi, someone paid a lot on eBay under that impression, although I see the bid started at 99p and rose to the high amount over time. This is far cruder than Vistosi, but still effective and I think perhaps 70s in date. I think maybe Scandinavian or German as I said before.

Adam

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: kitty-kat1234 on July 21, 2012, 12:55:10 PM

Oh my  :o ,so what happens when the buyer finds out it is not the right one  ???
And also,quick lesson,do you say Scandi or such because of the style of bird,looks abit folk art to me.
I did say i know zip!

Adam re the glass used,this is a cheap leadlight glass  ;D

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: TxSilver on July 22, 2012, 02:48:13 AM

What a cute bird, but as everyone said, it is all wrong for Pianon. Still cute. But not $900 worth of cute.  :o

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: adam20 on July 28, 2012, 12:10:28 AM

The second one to sell, which begs the question 'do they know something I don't?' http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=360474645159&nma=true&rt=nc&si=fQtHCFHVDV8vQifG9Wj2du%252BPs%252Bg%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_3138wt_922

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: TxSilver on July 28, 2012, 12:13:08 AM

What the last one like this sold for before the auction ended.  :-X

I don't know what you don't, either.

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: adam20 on July 28, 2012, 12:41:49 AM

Well if they know it's not Vistosi (maybe they don't - but the seller doesn't claim it is 100%) what do they think it is?

Title: Re: Glass Bird on Wire Legs
Post by: kane_u_pain on July 28, 2012, 12:16:41 PM

Well we know they will be very unhappy chappies or chappettes once they find out!