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Title: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 04, 2012, 09:25:44 AM

I aplogise if this occurs twice as I am having issues. This is a boat shaped ashtray thought it is in a sense angled /edged where it would be curved.  The glass has amazing clarity and the base is smooth and clear.  It stands 4cm high, 5cm wide and nine cm long. no markings to the maker.  i was hoping for some ideas. Thanks

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 04, 2012, 10:36:22 AM

Is it cut or pressed?

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 04, 2012, 10:52:10 AM

Looks cut to me - lovely arrises!

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 04, 2012, 11:57:20 AM

This is it upside down.  the lines are so perfect and the clarity , no a flaw.  Its very geometric.  all lines and angles and not a hint of softness about it.

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 04, 2012, 11:59:42 AM

Yes but is it cut or pressed?

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 04, 2012, 12:02:33 PM

I believe because of the sharpness of it /the edges and the smooth finish  that its cut.

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 04, 2012, 12:45:51 PM

In that case, I would ZBS (Zelezny Brod Sklo) was a good bet

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Ivo on August 04, 2012, 01:18:57 PM

throwing this one in the equasion which has a Moser stamp.

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 04, 2012, 01:28:16 PM

I was wondering Moser, just a little bit.
I don't know much about Moser - just that it screams monumental-ness and quality, and this does.

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 04, 2012, 09:26:56 PM

thanks..shall go on a hunt and see what I come up with.
 :)

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 04, 2012, 09:32:36 PM

The original of Václav Plátek`s proposal for n.p. Jablonec Glassworks, Dolní Polubný, signed
Fixed exposition of Museum of Glass and Jewellery in Jablonec nad Nisou
Photo Aleš Kosina (2007)

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 04, 2012, 09:43:38 PM

well it screams bits of both. Hmmm I am off to look at caravans so continue when I am back. :D

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Ivo on August 05, 2012, 05:11:01 AM

the citrine one you're showing is pressed, not comparable to the cut one at issue.

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 05, 2012, 08:14:06 AM

thanks I am such a novice and thanks to the moderator for cleaning up my copyright mess. ::)

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Jayne on August 07, 2012, 12:59:23 AM

There is a Val St Lambert one here with label which looks similar, different size though.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-VAL-ST-LAMBERT-CRYSTAL-ASH-TRAY-/180848240737?pt=UK_Collectables_Tobacciana_Smoking_LE&hash=item2a1b652861

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 07, 2012, 05:50:12 AM

wow thats close but no sitgnature.

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Ivo on August 07, 2012, 06:32:48 AM

Quote from: Jayne on August 07, 2012, 12:59:23 AM

There is a Val St Lambert one here with label which looks similar, different size though.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-VAL-ST-LAMBERT-CRYSTAL-ASH-TRAY-/180848240737?pt=UK_Collectables_Tobacciana_Smoking_LE&hash=item2a1b652861

And an entirely different technique. The vsl is cut crystal, not pressed. These barely have a nodding relationship...

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 07, 2012, 06:36:32 AM

Oh dear learning curve goes vertifcal . Thanks I vo

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 07, 2012, 06:50:18 AM

I thought the blue one in question was cut...

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 07, 2012, 08:16:12 AM

So do I ...

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Jayne on August 07, 2012, 08:17:51 AM

Quote from: Lustrousstone on August 07, 2012, 06:50:18 AM

I thought the blue one in question was cut...

So did I...

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Ivo on August 07, 2012, 09:41:16 AM

The blue one is cut.
the neodymium one of similar shape with a Moser stamp is cut.
the citrine one is a pressed Sklo Union piece.
The VSL one is cut

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Jayne on August 07, 2012, 09:49:11 AM

Quote from: Ivo on August 07, 2012, 06:32:48 AM

And an entirely different technique. The vsl is cut crystal, not pressed. These barely have a nodding relationship...

Quote from: Ivo on August 07, 2012, 09:41:16 AM

The blue one is cut.
the neodymium one of similar shape with a Moser stamp is cut.
the citrine one is a pressed Sklo Union piece.
The VSL one is cut

Yes, I was referring to the blue one, i. e. the original question. I would not randomly link something that referred to something else half way down the thread without stating so. Your attitude is condescending to say the least.

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Ivo on August 07, 2012, 11:11:24 AM

sorry I was under the misapprehension that you were interested in the maker of your blue ashtray. Have you figured it out yet?

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Jayne on August 07, 2012, 11:41:48 AM

If you are addressing me Ivo, it is NOT my ashtray, I was attempting to help the owner/thread starter.

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 07, 2012, 12:06:15 PM

Ivo is me Lee who is interested  Yamada

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: Roseclipt on August 08, 2012, 03:09:18 AM

I have 6 pieces in a similar colour and cut that are Moser beryl - does it glow under UV? I have two older ones that glow brightly, but the later ones don't.

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 08, 2012, 03:29:19 AM

Rose I dont have a uv light ::)

Title: Re: Ashtray
Post by: singingyamada on August 08, 2012, 03:32:18 AM

Very close
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mid-Century-Murano-Sommerso-Moser-Czech-Diamond-Alexandrite-Neodymium-Ashtray-/110925470890?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item19d3ac5caa