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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Paul S. on August 22, 2012, 10:27:01 AM
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Yesterday there was mention of a colour called honey amber, produced by the Webb factory, so am attaching couple of pix of Webb's tumblers, as believe the uranium example is likely to be this colour (called 'Sunshine' - golden amber in the factory brochure). We've discussed Webb's 'Gay Glass' range previously (the other two colours being 'Spring' and 'Evergreen'.
I've seen an earlier comment that..........."Webb did a uranium glass, called "honey amber", which is a very dirty brown colour", although I wouldn't have described this uranium one as dirty - it's quite an attractive shade of 'barleysugar', and is slightly the taller at 106mm and has the Webb's backstamp (for the period c. 1935 - 49) - both have a ground/polished pontil depression
The darker brown tumbler is without a backstamp, and appears to have Webb's Ribbonette moulded pattern - the paler uranium example looks like simply a honeycomb pattern. Assuming the paler uranium glass is a piece of Gay Glass 'Sunshine' (golden amber) - does anyone know if the darker brown coloured glass has a name?
sorry pix aren't the best (first one is the uranium glass), and thanks for looking.:)
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don't think the pix were good enough, so here are some better ones, including the glow :).
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I've just tracked down Christine's images of the bowls we believe are Webb's honey amber.
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=36#top_display_media
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=35#top_display_media
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Your uranium one is Sunshine Amber
Text deleted Snap Sue
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my thanks to both of you :) So, it appears we are definitely speaking of two separate uranium colours in this context then - the Gay Glass sunshine amber, and this slightly less bright honey amber. I think it's also been commented on before that Webb produced uranium glass using a variety of recipes, so maybe not surprising it's all a bit confusing. I notice that on Christine's four sided bowl the 'green' can be seen quite clearly on the rim - not something that is apparent on my u. tumbler.
No takers on a name for the colour of the darker brown tumbler then :)
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I deliberately went for Christine's pics because they're a lot less green than mine. ;)
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I should have read Manley first - this is possibly not quite as cut and dried as I was thinking :-\
In his book, Manley's rather thick walled vase with prunts to which he gives the name Webb's 'honey' (page 79 - item 181), also carries the authors comments..............."Could 'Sunshine Amber' cover a range of amber shades?"
He also says, regarding the previous item No. 180, to which he gives the name 'Sunshine Amber'........"The shades of this glassware vary considerably, so much so, that it is possible there were a different number of mixtures".
Does anyone know what Manley's 'Sunset' colour looks like which, he says, occurs in Webb's fircone pattern?
Does all seem rather complex, and makes you wonder whether in fact the factory themselves differentiated quite so liberally. :)
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Sunshine was a 1930s name, though it was probably not a new colour. Honey was probably not an official Webb name but my piece is certainly the same colour as the piece Manley shows (I saw one and didn't buy it because it was damaged. It had gone when I changed my mind) Look at Hajdamach 1800-1914 pp429-432 for some of the Webb colours. It's entirely likely that new colours were introduced beyond these and that these colours may have had different marketing names in the 2Oth century. The only way to find out is from marketing material.