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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: mrs vulture on September 08, 2012, 07:25:09 PM
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Hello, I found this small black base at the car boot, I always buy black bases for my vases whenever I find them going cheap. At first I thought this was a small vase base but it can't be because it has a lump raised in the centre and what appears to be a screw thread inside. Underneath it has the reg no. 881198. Its 4 inches across the bottom and nearly two inches tall. All I can think of is a lamp base but can't think its big enough or how it would work. Anyone know what it comes from please because its really bugging me now!!! ;D Cheryl
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Hello Cheryl - it has an almost deco look with those stepped sides, but that Rd. No. is way beyond the end of the British Blue Book Nos. - they finish in August 1945 at No. 844274. It's just possible this may have a Continental origin - but regret I can add nothing really useful.
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The quick checklist on http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/regnos.htm#TOP says between 1950 - 1960
Guess around 1957 ?
Chris
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Now thats a useful site to remember for checking dates, it is very deco in shape so it appears earlier in date ?? Cheryl
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Hi I can tell you exactly what t that glass base is used for. It's for a snow globe. I bought a vintage snow globe from ebay the other day and when it arrived it had a glass base with the number on the base. I put it into the net out of curiosity and saw your post which I know was a long time ago but you may still use the forum. ;D
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:) Thank-you for taking the time and effort to join to answer this query.
It's very kind of you indeed.
I'm sure the OP will see it.
Are you interested in glass yourself?
Do, please hang around and join in the chatter. ;D
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can't promise, but I'll try to include this No. when I visit Kew next week - at least we might see the name of the manufacturer.
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I've added it to the look up topic Paul, along with the Bailey lookups. :)
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Wow I posted that years ago, thank you for answering my query, I would not have guessed a snow globe. 😁😁
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I now have the Kew pix for Reg. 881198 - plus some others - and hope to post all of them over the next 48 hours. But, in the meantime, and if Claire is still looking, will she tell us please if her clear glass/plastic 'snow globe' is in some way threaded. I'm asking this as the black base carries a very simple form of thread, and so we have to assume that whatever was intended originally to sit atop the base also carried a matching thread.
The Kew Registration data for this item indicates that the base might be suitable for several items, but none of these is for a 'snow globe' - although that's not to say categoricaly the Registrant didn't subsequently invent a globe for the base. My opinion would be that if the globe isn't threaded then it's unlikely to be part of the original design. :)
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images of the original factory drawing, plus the Register page, now attached, showing the maker as Century Glass Works, Edmonton, London - the style of which would suggest a maker rather than wholesaler/retailer only.
In case the wording is unclear, the description for intended use reads ............. "a base for supporting a vase, bowl, bedside lamp or the like."
It may well be that Claire's 'snow globe' is threaded, and has a central hole which fits over the projection in the centre of the base, in which case they will possibly have started life together. The internal shape of the base requires something other than a fully circular design, and it's noticeable that the floor of the base carries some form of indent - for sealing perhaps? Opinions welcome. :)
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Paul, that's fascinating to see the original design, thank you! And it's Century Glass Works too, one of the companies I'm hunting for more info about. I wonder how many more designs they registered after the date of the Blue Book's coverage? It is looking more and more like I am going to have make a trip back down to London and spend a week in the archives myself!
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wish you every success if you do Anne. I'm sure you remember some of my earlier comments about the need for a Reader's Ticket in order to research the archives - unfortunately, without this you would be confined to the café area, and though pleasant as their Victoria Sponge is, it would be frustrating to be confined to a coffee and bun only, had you come a long way. If you're serious about visiting Kew, do give them a call beforehand just to assess the situation, and documents needed for proof of id. :)
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Thanks Paul I will. I did used to have a Readers' Ticket when I lived in London, before the NatArchives moved out to Kew, but it has long-since lapsed. I'm hoping I may be able to arrange something for later next year - it all depends on workload of course.
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Hi the glass from the snowglobe was threaded and it was glass not plastic. It had a circular separate
Rubber piece and when put together it was absolutely watertight. The glass had lots of tiny air bubbles in it. My sister has it now. I bought it from EBay for for Xmas. Hope that helps any other question I’ll try to answer even though I don’t have it now👍🏻