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Title: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: valjk on October 31, 2012, 02:31:02 AM
I will try not to hog the message board with my ID queries, so this is the last one for a while, but I've got a few more objects (bought yet another one today) which are driving me crazy!  This bowl looks like it might be Scandinavian to me, but I haven't managed to find it, although I am getting bleary-eyed working my way through the Danish Glassworks Museum at the moment.  It is approximately 26cm x 16cm and 4.5cm high.  The base is flat with a faint trace of writing, possibly in felt tip, which looks like "1971  16".  Is there a word for this kind of two-tone colouration which I can use to search with?
Thanks,
Valerie
Title: Re: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: antiquerose123 on October 31, 2012, 02:40:08 AM
??

Unsure of it, but kinda reminds me along this line (Maybe)?? (http://www.modernistglass.com/glasspieces/view/2455/holmegaard-per-lutken-1962-smoke-gray-selandia-art-glass-bowl)

...but I am in Canada so most likely I am in Left field again........??
Title: Re: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: valjk on November 02, 2012, 12:02:55 PM
Antiquerose123, I've had a look at the link, and I think the Holmegaard bowl is much more stylish than mine, unfortunately!  But I think it could be Bayel, France, after finding a similar one while looking up Bayel in connection with another post of mine about a narrow dish with a blue streak.  I shall keep an open mind and keep searching, especially since there was another item in my auction job lot which was a signed Holmegaard piece.  I forgot to bookmark it and can no longer find it by searching, aargh!  If glass makers had indelibly marked all their pieces there would be a lot fewer messages on this website, but then the fun of the treasure hunt would be lost.
Thanks for your input, always appreciated!
Valerie
Title: Re: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: langhaugh on November 02, 2012, 06:28:12 PM
Not Lutken or Holmegaard. I think Bayel is a good place to start looking. Magnor also did similar pieces, as did many other companies, but Magnor's pieces were unsigned. Smoky grey is the term I would use to describe the piece.

David
Title: Re: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: valjk on November 09, 2012, 05:21:42 PM
Thanks, David. I've searched Bayel and still haven't found anything quite like this bowl   I'll keep an open mind and keep looking until I find it somewhere!

Valerie
Title: Re: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: glassobsessed on November 09, 2012, 05:30:35 PM
Ryd is another possibility. Very hard to id this style of bowl without a signature or label.

John
Title: Re: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: antiquerose123 on December 27, 2012, 05:46:00 PM
?????????????

Could it be Ikea?  Is that a possibility ??

http://whimseysgarden.mybisi.com/product/retro-ikea-green-art-glass-bowl-vintage-scandinavian (http://whimseysgarden.mybisi.com/product/retro-ikea-green-art-glass-bowl-vintage-scandinavian)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retro-Ikea-Free-Form-Blue-Art-Glass-Bowl-Modern-Scandinavian-/251099970432 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retro-Ikea-Free-Form-Blue-Art-Glass-Bowl-Modern-Scandinavian-/251099970432)

??  Just throwing that out there....as not sure??

Title: Re: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: valjk on December 28, 2012, 01:09:08 AM
Rose, Ikea could certainly be a possibility, the shape is very similar although it doesn't look as if that particular range was two-tone.  I wish I had kept some Ikea catalogues from that era, they might be quite useful now for identification purposes.  Funny that some Ikea can now be classed as "vintage retro", that makes me feel quite old!  Mind you, I have seen some of my 1950's toys and books in antique centres, that really is aging!  If only my mother had kept my Muffin the Mule . . .
Thanks for the input, it has opened up a new search area!
Best wishes,
Valerie

Title: Re: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: Anne on December 29, 2012, 04:30:35 PM
IKEA sold (sell) glass, they didn't make it...  even if it was their design it was made for them by a glassworks somewhere. :)
Title: Re: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: Penelope on December 29, 2012, 08:52:39 PM
Erickson glass?
Title: Re: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: valjk on December 30, 2012, 09:52:49 PM
Hi Anne, yes, I agree Ikea glass must have been made by glassmakers, does anyone have any idea which?  Scandinavian?  Any particular style would presumably sell in large quantities, so maybe a lot of unmarked pieces might be from Ikea. (But there don't seem to be many of these two-tone pieces around, and I haven't been able to find an illustration of another exactly like this.)  Perhaps I ought to start buying Ikea catalogues now to help in future identifications, although probably you would still regard an Ikea piece as unidentified, i.e. "Made by ???, sold by Ikea".  Still, it would be a start.

Penelope, thanks for putting me on to another possibility.  I've had a quick search for images for Erickson Glass, and managed to find two similar two-tone pieces, although not exactly the same as mine.  Did Erickson export to the UK?  They seemed to make quite a lot of pieces similar to Whitefriars, lots of controlled-bubble items and also little coloured jugs with clear handles.  All this sharing of styles makes life very difficult, although it seems that pieces from some makers were usually signed, so unmarked ones can rule those makers out.  Or have I got that wrong? 

Thanks again, Valerie
Title: Re: Bowl with grey centre to ID
Post by: Penelope on December 30, 2012, 10:47:02 PM
Right. Erickson might have been a better bet if you lived in the US. What about Paul Kedelv - Flygsfors ?