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Title: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: daveweight on April 12, 2006, 12:21:01 PM
Is anyone else, like me, fascinated by these chinese hollow paperweights that have been hand painted from the inside ? It must a lot of time, patience and skill bearing in mind the colours have to be put on in layers and be in the right order. I have another one of 100 children and an underwater scene with fish and turtles.
I found the manufacturer of these "globes"as they are called and they are made in various sizes up to 12". They were ridiculously cheap but when you added on shipping costs, VAT and around £30 for Parcel Farce to collect the VAT the price became astronomical.
I haven't seen many of these around although I am sure they aren't rare.
Dave

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Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 29, 2007, 10:00:28 PM
I've just bought one of these with panels of birds that I'm quite pleased with. I presume they're modern
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: glasstrufflehunter on September 30, 2007, 08:19:15 AM
I've seen a few of them on eBay. The ones I found interesting were made of very thick glass. I wonder how they would last as paint tends to flake off of glass after a while.
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Frank on September 30, 2007, 12:11:14 PM
Unless they are enamel and fired or epoxy based paint cured with UV, both of which would last forever(ish).

Is there just a small hole underneat and painted in the round? The Chinese are masters at complicated ways of dong things, like those ivory filigree balls inside filigree balls.
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 30, 2007, 05:48:24 PM
Yes, they're painted in the round. The birds are all identifiable - mandarin ducks, magpies, pheasants and a n other The hole is relatively small - I can get my little finger in as far as the first knuckle, about a pencil and  a half in diameter.
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Frank on September 30, 2007, 07:09:57 PM
I have one on my WANT list :)
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Della on September 30, 2007, 07:13:50 PM

Frank,

I have one that you can have, but unfortunately it is missing the wooden stand. Let me know if you would still like it and I will get it to you.  :)
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 30, 2007, 08:28:35 PM
Mine doesn't have a stand either  :cry: I will post a pic in the next week or so
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Frank on September 30, 2007, 08:31:10 PM
Ooooh Della!  ^-^
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Della on September 30, 2007, 08:36:10 PM

You have mail, Frank  ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Wuff on October 06, 2007, 08:25:15 AM
The technique of inside or (better known as) reverse painting is quite old, though I don't know for how long it has been applied to things which may be classified as paperweights in the widest sense. There is another collection topic, however: do a Google search on [reverse painted "snuff bottles"] and you'll find beautiful examples for the application of this technique. I don't know much detail, especially not on how the colour is fixed, to keep it from peeling off with time - but it doesn't seem to be a problem.
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Frank on October 06, 2007, 11:05:08 AM
Good suggestion, most links are to auctions but persists as clearly a rich field and source of information on Chinese glass skills. There is only one reverse painted example on this page and that one is damaged, so a snip at $8,800. But the page shows a wealth of glass examples... http://www.snuffbottle.com/new.htm

I presume that this is not another side of the Robert Hall, paperweight author, restorer and dealer?
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Wuff on October 06, 2007, 11:25:26 AM
Just a selection of other links (not limited to reverse painted glass bottles):
http://www.geocities.com/hopwahantiques01/Inside_Painted_Snuff_Bottle.html (http://www.geocities.com/hopwahantiques01/Inside_Painted_Snuff_Bottle.html) with pictures of the process
http://www.sundeity.com/insidepainting/bottle/index.htm (http://www.sundeity.com/insidepainting/bottle/index.htm)
http://www.sundeity.com/insidepaintingball.htm (http://www.sundeity.com/insidepaintingball.htm) with "paperweights"
http://www.snuffbottleclub.com/ (http://www.snuffbottleclub.com/)
http://www.chinasnuffbottle.com/ (http://www.chinasnuffbottle.com/)
http://www.chinafactorysources.com/catalog/snuff_bottle/snuff_bottle_reverse_paint_index.htm (http://www.chinafactorysources.com/catalog/snuff_bottle/snuff_bottle_reverse_paint_index.htm)
http://www.asianartmall.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=24 (http://www.asianartmall.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=24)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snuff_bottle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snuff_bottle)
http://www.millermilitaria.com/Snuff1.html (http://www.millermilitaria.com/Snuff1.html)
I guess these will keep interested readers busy for a while 8)
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: Frank on October 06, 2007, 12:26:43 PM
with pictures of the process

Well rooted out Wolf, thank you. That has dashed the romantic image, of the 'myth', that the painters did the work lying on their backs - that I had only known about for an hour or two.  ;)
Title: Re: Chinese Paperweights Hand Painted on the Insside
Post by: cfosterk on November 05, 2007, 06:01:26 PM
If there's enough interest why can't a few people order together and save on shipping costs etc?