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Title: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Nemmie on January 12, 2013, 11:09:09 AM
Wondering if anyone had any idea who may have made this. Not something I would normally buy but the detail of the engraving is the best I have seen in person so I decided to buy it.

Hard to photograph but I hope the detail level comes across. If anyone has any tips of how I could show this clearly I would be grateful.

If anyone could give me an idea who may have made it that would be very much appreciated.

Its 8 inches tall. Lots of wear on the base, ground and polished pontil mark and glows very brightly under UV light.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Nemmie on January 12, 2013, 11:10:12 AM
More Pictures
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 12, 2013, 11:45:06 AM
I think you have a bit of Webb Gay glass there!
I'll have to get out my close-up glasses and a magnifoer to read Hajdamach about it, but I have found the right page.
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Nemmie on January 12, 2013, 12:01:09 PM
Thanks, I had a look do you mean page 141?

Hard to match up the pattern with the vase but the shape and description of a lily design by intaglio workers seems right.

Hopefully you have more powerful magnification than I do.



Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 12, 2013, 12:20:47 PM
I know the design of the lily cut - I have admired and studied Christine's vase in Sunshine Amber.
Yes, p 141.
(it's not in the index, I have to rely on knowing it's the bottom of a right hand page and trawl through.)

Your piece looks as if it's more likely to be "Evergreen" (actually "Old Bristol Green", renamed), rather than "Spring".
The book doesn't mention Uranium in either of the greens, but does say the recipes came from Benjamin Richardson III.

(Edited for clarity - the BR III recipes were for the greens. the sunshine amber recipe was made from a Swedish formula brought over by Sven Fogelberg. All info from Hajdamach, 20th Century British Glass, p 140-141.)
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Nemmie on January 12, 2013, 12:44:33 PM
That is great news then. Thank you.

 :)
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 12, 2013, 01:37:59 PM
Those are irises not lilies. Why do I think the iris cut is not Webb? Walsh? Stevens and Williams? I also think the green is too light for Bristol Green. Can't find the answer ATM

Edited: It's Walsh's Waterlily, iris and bulrush pattern. See Reynolds P47 for one in purple and a green bowl.
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 12, 2013, 01:45:54 PM
 ???

I can see waterlillies at the bottom of the piece, Christine,  :-*  Although the stems and leaves look different to your piece, I assumed the difference in the cutting going up was because of the diffferent shape of the vessel.

And we do know for certain there are other, non-official cuts on Gay Glass.

I was so sure...  :'(
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 12, 2013, 01:48:17 PM
See my edit.
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Nemmie on January 12, 2013, 01:55:33 PM
Sadly I don't have that particular tome.

Happy with Walsh though.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 12, 2013, 01:59:12 PM
You may find it's marked but that's a definite ID
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 12, 2013, 02:07:44 PM
And Christine knows far better and much more than I do.
Walsh is a fabby attribution to have.
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Nemmie on January 12, 2013, 02:11:49 PM
I just bought the book  ;D

I have checked the base carefully but the multitude of scratches makes it unlikely that I would be able to see any mark that was there.

Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 12, 2013, 02:27:28 PM
I need one of those vases or something similar  ;)
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Nemmie on February 13, 2013, 05:01:54 PM
Took a better picture so I thought I would attach to this thread for posterity.

Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 13, 2013, 05:46:26 PM
 :o

The colour is completely different to that which I had thought it to be!
Which is the correct colour (or nearest) - this newer image?
It's truly gorgeous, especially if it is this much blue-er sort of green!
Title: Re: Uranium Glass Vase with Very detailed Lily Pond Scene Engraved ID Help
Post by: Nemmie on February 14, 2013, 06:40:59 AM
I think perhaps in the first pictures under daylight for some reason it looks slightly lighter in colour than it actually is.

In the secod the colour is darker than it actually is but closer to real life. Which is odd as I always thought daylight produced the most accurate colour.

But then this is all new to me, I only got my tent at the weekend and I am still experimenting.