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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: keith on January 31, 2013, 08:54:34 PM
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Just thought someone might like to see the latest,10 inches high,missing it's clapper but nice candy stripe handle, ;D
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lovely! I found some information on those somewhere recently when researching the opaline question - I'll try and rack my brains to remember what and where.
I think it was mentioned in conjunction with 'Nailsea type' - I'll post more if I remember.
The clappers were always pasted in apparently(IIRC) - did you know that?
m
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Thanks m,yep they all have paste inside only one still has it's clapper,the little piece of wire is not well fixed in and it's no wonder most are missing, ;D
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nice bell Keith. I wasn't aware of method of attaching the clappers................do you mean paste as in flour and water paste (starch paste), or was it some other form of paste? :)
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It might have been plaster of Paris, as used to hold rims etc. on.
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Certainly.... unusual Keith, and I understand why you needed it for your collection, but a it's a bit "eeeek" for me!
I'd agree, "paste" is more likely to be plaster of paris than flour, salt and water.
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It obviously pays to read your book** first :-[
and the book says..............yes, it was plaster of paris, apparently - bells with coloured handles are less common - handles and bodies were two separate parts and joined with plaster of Paris - and bells with clappers don't seem to be more valuable than those without, but may be more desireable.
Keith - is your handle joined to the bell part with plaster of Paris
** 'Glass - Antiques Checklist' - Mark West - Millers - 1994.
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just for the reference...
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Very attractive Ivo - does it have its clapper - and what do you consider is the country of origin :)
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No clapper and origin most likely Nailsea. I Found it in Dublin many years ago.
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Recent threads on Nailsea style and similar makers glass here (first one is very long)
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,49315.msg284500.html#msg284500
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,49719.msg280809.html#msg280809
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Like that bell Ivo,thanks for the info' m, I should have said plaster of Paris and yes the handles are all fixed with paste,I mean plaster of Paris ::) ;D ;D
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I recall that somewhere back in one of the links from m, there was a statement that coloured glass had never been recorded from Nailsea - with Bristol (separate from Nailsea) and Stourbridge being the most likely Candidates. Newcastle also seems to get a mention as a possible source. Are there records of 'bells' originating from other countries in the earlier parts of the C19?
In the few books I have showing 'Nailsea type' bells, I'm unable to find a match with Ivo's example, so guess his is much the rarer - although the filigrana decoration and colours of pink, white and blue can be found in various glass articles from the earlier parts of the C19.
It's an interesting and attractive piece.
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that's why I said
'Recent threads on Nailsea style and similar makers ' :)
but I'm not sure the 'no coloured glass from Nailsea' rule stands... I don't think it has definitely been concluded with evidence that there was no coloured glass from Nailsea . Could be wrong though.
m
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The only book we have on bells describes this type as 'English' and leaves it at that,now where is that book ??? ??? ;D