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Title: ID sculpture
Post by: ttttootall on February 03, 2013, 01:24:12 AM
Bought in North Carolina.
Can anyone make out this signature.
Sculpture stands a little over a foot.
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 03, 2013, 01:10:18 PM
Could we see an image of the actual piece, please?

The green "glow" you have in uv light there is not uranium, but manganese.
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: ttttootall on February 03, 2013, 01:55:25 PM
Here are more pictures. This piece is difficult to get good pics because it picks up any light around it. Sorry this is the best I can do. :'(
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: ttttootall on February 03, 2013, 02:05:01 PM
Also, had to look up the word (manganese) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese...I love new words and this was a very interesting one.
Is it  used often in the production of art glass?
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 03, 2013, 03:59:39 PM
It can be used as a "decolourant" in clear glass. (I can't remember what "contaminant colour" it corrects :-[ )

Are there yellowy and bluey colours in the sculpture itself? or is it all clear?
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: Fuhrman Glass on February 03, 2013, 04:19:11 PM
not sure it's manganese, Ive gotten some similiar effects from some silver fuming and have also gotten some simiiar effects of potassium strikes in a reduction flame with the right type of batch.i.e Glasma batch and cullet. Large glass community around Asheville,NC and probably from one of the locals. Bob Stephan of HIS Glassworks did some internal things like this many years ago. just a guess.
BTW: manganese usually will take out the green that comes from iron in the silica.
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 03, 2013, 04:30:59 PM
I think I can see bits that look like what might be silver fuming!
To be honest, I don't think I'm familiar with "silver fuming" per se - I'd LOVE to know what it's like, I've got a real thing about silver and glass reactions!

However, the nearest to fuming I know of, is the effect found on Mdina and Isle of Wight SG, when the gob of molten glass which is being coloured with silver salts (chloride or nitrate) gets detached from the rod and some silver gas escapes from inside and deposits itself on the outside.

There are a couple of patches on this sculpture which look like what might be what I'd describe as "trails of comets", found on early Mdina and IoWSG.
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: ttttootall on February 03, 2013, 05:55:44 PM
Yes there is milky yellows and blue through out  the piece.
Here is a couple  more pictures that may show the colors.
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 03, 2013, 06:11:45 PM
That definitely looks like silver effects.  ;D
I think it is safe to say this is not modern Chinese. The square pedestal had me worried just a little bit.
It's rather a nice thing!
Now we just need somebody who can make the signature out!
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: ttttootall on February 03, 2013, 06:39:01 PM
Guess I should have mentioned...the square base is acrylic.
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: rosieposie on February 03, 2013, 07:21:29 PM
I'd love to see the signature a little bigger.
I am thinking Nalor, Nalu, Nalin or Valor, Valu, or Valin at the moment.
A very interesting and nicely balanced piece.
Rosie. :)
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: Fuhrman Glass on February 03, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
looks a little like the work Ed Nesturek did. He was arounfd Pittsburgh,PA. Glass of this type from what I can see in the photos was identified by "Silver Veiled" glass. Nick Labino and several others played around with this stuff a lot. It was a silver based formula.
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: ttttootall on February 03, 2013, 09:50:08 PM
I've tried to get better pictures of the signature but it is located on the glass so close to the base that it is almost impossible to see even with magnification. When I purchased this the seller did not even know it was signed. That is how difficult it is to see. Wish I could send better pictures.
After reading the previous reply I looked for examples of Ed Nesturek's work with signature and am pretty sure it is not his...but the colours are very close, however the signature is not.
Title: Re: ID sculpture
Post by: rosieposie on February 03, 2013, 10:01:52 PM
Yes, I looked them both up and the signatures are very different,  but their style is quite similar in some pieces.   On with the search.... I am using 200% magnification to see the signature better!!