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Title: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot - ID = Nazeing
Post by: glassobsessed on February 28, 2013, 09:51:50 AM

I need help with this one, I have been going around in circles... Height 22cm, pink and white cased in clear with foot that shows a distinct blue tint. Ground but unpolished pontil mark, fire polished rim.

I had a mooch through the Scottish factories but drew a blank, could it be from Nazeing?

John

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 28, 2013, 11:45:28 AM

I don't think the base is right for Nazeing... but I can't think of anything else!
I would discout Grey-Stan, for the base and for the application of the enamels - I don't think Grey-Stan would have allowed them to stretch and swirl throughout a piece in this manner. The foot isn't Vasart-y... I don't think.
Saunders and Wallace would be marked, and again, the rough ground pontil mark isn't right.
Adrian Sankey...?
I'm not even sure of the period - just casting about wildly.  ::) :)

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: glassobsessed on February 28, 2013, 02:49:09 PM

Date wise I assume in the heyday for this sort of thing, 1930s or thereabouts.  Funnily enough I handled a Greystan bowl in similar colours a few weeks ago (before I picked this vase up) and from memory they do differ. The Greystan had a wider variety of bubble sizes and more swirls and suchlike, quality seemed a little more refined too.

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: Paul S. on February 28, 2013, 02:59:07 PM

Don't think I can offer anything positive John, except..........  the dull pontil depression doesn't exclude Nazeing, but have to say that I can't see this shape in the Timberlake book.         It would seem that Nazeing pinks can vary quite a lot too, so that's not a great deal of help  -  but
I'm not seeing perhaps the right bubbles on your vase  -  although that could be a screen problem more.
I seem to recall that we have discussed the bubble issue on Nazeing frequently - so perhaps you might find something of help if you try the Search facility. :)

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 28, 2013, 03:01:23 PM

Grey-Stan is definitely much more refined - that's a good word for the difference!

I can see the enamel "halo" in the pics, Paul.  :) I must have the correct face-furniture on today.

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: glassobsessed on February 28, 2013, 08:22:59 PM

Thanks Paul, I did a bit of searching the other night re Nazeing, I was a bit tired and what I read left me confused - quite a familiar feeling. :D

Will have another look on the weekend. Meanwhile, the only photo I have to hand at present showing the odd bubble:

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: Paul S. on February 28, 2013, 08:52:38 PM

I'm not so sure that Sue really has been to the right branch of Specsavers ;D ;D

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 01, 2013, 11:25:07 AM

Ferrier and MacKinnon, Paul.  :P

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: Oxbridge Fairs on March 01, 2013, 11:36:26 AM

This is postwar Nazeing and is pictured in the 'working drawings' on p86 of Geoff Timberlake's book.

Christina.

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 01, 2013, 11:52:01 AM

heehee Paul. Who has the right glasses on now.....?  ;)

Thank-you, Christina.

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: Paul S. on March 01, 2013, 01:29:47 PM

we obviously need to hear more from Christina, who's ability to read books properly is vastly better than mine.          Moral of the story, don't only look at the coloured pix :-[

Quite right Sue  :-*

As Christina says  -  this shape is shown under the heading of 'Working drawings of art glass vases' - and seems to carry the factory pattern code of 52/4.

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 01, 2013, 01:59:57 PM

The moral being that constructive collaberation with others is vastly superior to muddling around on our own.  :-*

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: glassobsessed on March 01, 2013, 02:05:17 PM

Thank you Christina, your help is much appreciated. Paul on the other hand, is due a few hours in the stocks. ;D

Like me Paul, your head is easily turned by pretty pictures of glass...

Now what am I going to do this weekend if I am not trawling the internet looking for examples of Nazeing? Perhaps best if you lot don't answer that!

John

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: Oxbridge Fairs on March 01, 2013, 02:13:40 PM

We have a reasonably large collection of Nazeing glass, an example of this particular vase included, so I do have an advantage.

It's time there was another exhibition/book on the subject. What do you reckon, Nigel??

Christina.

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: nigel benson on April 13, 2013, 12:37:24 PM

Ok, Christina....I'm working on it  :-[ :-[

Never enough time blocks available, especially in the current economic climate where earning a crust takes us all a lot more effort  :(

Thanks for spurring me on though ;) :)

Cheers, Nigel

Title: Re: Cloudy pink and white swirled vase, clear foot
Post by: Anne on April 14, 2013, 05:22:03 PM

I would love a book on Nazeing!  I can't find a copy of Timberlake for sale. :(