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Title: God Save The Queen Commemorative plate
Post by: Tigerchips on April 22, 2006, 10:14:06 PM
I've always wanted to know who makes all these commemorative items. I presume either Greener, Bagley or Davidsons.

This one says: "God Save The Queen, 1953, Elizabeth Regina". Any ideas of maker, please?
(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/thumb_Picture%201522.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture%201522.jpg)

I think this one is Bagley? It says "Queen Elizabeth II, June 1953, Coronation".
(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/thumb_Picture%201523.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture%201523.jpg)

Any comments much appreciated, thanks.  :)
Title: Re: God Save The Queen Commemorative plate
Post by: Bernard C on May 01, 2006, 05:53:54 AM
Quote from: "Tigerchips"
I've always wanted to know who makes all these commemorative items. I presume either Greener, Bagley or Davidsons. ...

Why these three, always assuming that you meant Jobling for Greener?   Note that the name change took place in 1921, well after James Jobling acquired the factory in 1885, ref. Baker & Crowe.   How about Chance, Sowerby, Nazeing, UGB, Walsh, or Wood Bros, plus a whole raft of Continental and Empire/Commonwealth glassworks?

Quote from: "Tigerchips"
... This one says: "God Save The Queen, 1953, Elizabeth Regina". Any ideas of maker, please? ...

No.   I've seen it attributed to Sowerby by elimination, but that technique is extremely dodgy.

Quote from: "Tigerchips"
... I think this one is Bagley? It says "Queen Elizabeth II, June 1953, Coronation". ...

No, this one is Jobling.    Late C19 commemoratives in this pattern carry the Greener mark.    This mould may have been transferred to Davidson, or, possibly, Sowerby, in the early 1960s, when Jobling stopped all non-Pyrex production.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: God Save The Queen Commemorative plate
Post by: Adam on May 01, 2006, 10:31:52 AM
Definitely not made by Sowerby in or about 1953.  Pass on Bernard's comment re post-1960.

Adam D.
Title: Re: God Save The Queen Commemorative plate
Post by: Tigerchips on May 03, 2006, 04:57:59 PM
Thanks for your help.  :D

Quote from: "Bernard C"
Quote from: "Tigerchips"
I've always wanted to know who makes all these commemorative items. I presume either Greener, Bagley or Davidsons. ...

Why these three, always assuming that you meant Jobling for Greener?   Note that the name change took place in 1921, well after James Jobling acquired the factory in 1885, ref. Baker & Crowe.   How about Chance, Sowerby, Nazeing, UGB, Walsh, or Wood Bros, plus a whole raft of Continental and Empire/Commonwealth glassworks?
 


These three because commemorative plates are common around my area which led me to believe that they're from Northern England. I can't remember which one's though as they all look the same to me.

I guess I never really thought that they could be as common in other areas.  :oops:

Quote from: "Bernard C"

Quote from: "Tigerchips"
... I think this one is Bagley? It says "Queen Elizabeth II, June 1953, Coronation". ...

No, this one is Jobling.    Late C19 commemoratives in this pattern carry the Greener mark.    This mould may have been transferred to Davidson, or, possibly, Sowerby, in the early 1960s, when Jobling stopped all non-Pyrex production.
Bernard C.  8)

Thank you. There's a similar one in Miller's Collectables Price Guide 1997-98 (p249) with the crossed swords and crown but it's for the George The Sixth Coronation. It's attributed to Bagley which is why I though it might be there's.  :?

Pencil and Tippex on standby.  :lol: