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Title: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: stew2u2 on March 07, 2013, 07:09:32 PM
hi
i think this might be bohemian not 100% with this glass identification expertise yet well im not even 10%. am i right with this
no idea of age ect any help would be greatfull it has a very rough pontil infact it wobbles.
stew
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 07, 2013, 07:35:55 PM
Looks like it's only flown from St Helens (Pilkington (http://www.lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/thumbnails.php?search=pilkington&submit=search&album=search&title=on&newer_than=&caption=on&older_than=&keywords=on&type=AND) ) to me. That's where these are thought to have been made
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: stew2u2 on March 07, 2013, 07:47:12 PM
 ;D thanks Christine like i said not even 10%
you got me laughing now not flown very far  ;D
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: stew2u2 on March 07, 2013, 07:52:54 PM
any age to them seem very rough base are they end of the day work
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 07, 2013, 08:36:21 PM
The bases vary from slit your wrists sharp through a bit fire polished, to ground flat and one is even polished. No-one is quite sure when but mid 20th century onwards. Or whether foreigners or through the museum, no-one knows that either and Pilkington denys all knowledge.
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: tropdevin on March 07, 2013, 08:59:50 PM
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I think the Pilkingtons aspect has been written up elsewhere (with Czech workers in the 1960s-1970s teaching local glassworkers the style, but no paperweights being produce 'formally' as a production item).  However, there are some older, Czech examples around too in the UK, and no doubt elsewhere.  There are stylised flowers as well as butterflies, and all tend to have less bright colours, and poorer glass with a slightly yellow rather than slightly (or sometimes quite distinct) blue-green tinge. I think it is not always easy to tell them apart.

Alan
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on March 08, 2013, 10:41:41 AM
Just in case I see one out and about, do they have much value?

Ian
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: tropdevin on March 09, 2013, 09:59:21 PM
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Mine have cost me about £10 each, I recall, a few years ago. I don't know whether they have moved much since then.

Alan
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: stew2u2 on March 09, 2013, 11:44:51 PM
i suppose it depends where you buy them from. a dealer you would probably pay through the nose for one but a car boot next to nothing  ;D
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 10, 2013, 10:04:04 AM
One of the dealers at a local antiques fair has a white one at £40; he's had it for several years now. I'd like it for £10 but...
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: chriscooper on March 10, 2013, 11:06:39 AM
One I have, is  discussed in this thread some more photos including a box with butterfly ones in.
I originally thought mine was an older Czech one too.

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,50582.msg286054.html#msg286054

Chris
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: Roger H on March 10, 2013, 08:48:34 PM
  Interesting weights at about £10- £20 area.  Was originally educated that these are circa 1960s Czech workers.    The previous answers seem to be as close as possible to attribution.
          Two more for you to peruse.  The butterfly I still have, which has a decent matt base finish and the "umbrella" I have sold which has a polished base finish.
             Roger.       
Title: Re: Bohemian butterfly weight ??? any help would be greatfull
Post by: joewol on March 12, 2013, 10:43:24 PM
hi guys
i have one of these butterfly weights which i thought was bohemian as well , i will post some images to compare if anyone is intrested in viewing them!!!
cheers joe