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Title: something special?
Post by: RAY on April 07, 2013, 09:55:50 PM
dont know why it went for so much http://goo.gl/KbpYk
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: chriscooper on April 07, 2013, 10:13:08 PM
Could be.... http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?pageNum_catalogue=5&totalRows_catalogue=255&id=1389
Rare one if it is.

Chris
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: tropdevin on April 08, 2013, 03:25:11 PM
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I guess it could be Whitefriars - perhaps the two bidders asked for extra images that were not posted in the advert - or were very confident about what it actually is.  Or someone has got their fingers badly burnt.  I have to admit I would have not paid more that a pound or two if I had seen it at a car boot sale!

The seller does not seem to know a lot about paperweights - he has some others listed, including a couple of Chinese weights that would normally be charity shop material at a start price of £50.00 each....and a couple of decent Whitefriars at £70.00!

Alan
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: johnphilip on April 08, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
It looks very much like the Marbrie I sold several weeks back , shame I didn't make that much . :'(
The Whitefriars were made in ruby and I believe tangerine they are rare .
Methinks that's a tangerine one , one of our members has a ruby one .
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: paperweights on April 08, 2013, 06:45:45 PM
I have seen these sold as Rumanian glass in the past.  I don't think I ever had one with a label. 
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: KevinH on April 08, 2013, 07:28:12 PM
And some similar ones, that I think were eastern Europen, had a "Y" in the base. They were certainly not by Salvador Ysart and I don't think they were out of the Yelverton Paperweights "Y" range.
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: chriscooper on April 08, 2013, 08:29:09 PM
 Trust me I may know little about paperweights in general  :) but I do know a little about Whitefriars, it's a very scarce 9813 Tangerine doorstop.

Chris
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: johnphilip on April 08, 2013, 09:20:11 PM
I trust you Chris
Title: Re: something special? Yes indeedy !!
Post by: Tony G on April 09, 2013, 03:24:15 PM
Hi John, Chris etc.,
                             definite very rare Whitefriars Marbrie in tangerine and white. I was the underbidder and extremely cheesed off at someone else spotting it !!! I had tried a BIN with his other two millefiori WF weights to avoid raising the profile, and although tempted, he resisted. He later e-mailed back that after the sale (!) , he had researched that 4 years ago, one sold for £750 !! So he was pee'd off. I did advise that without me bidding he would have just got his £70 starting bid!!

Apparently these were very slow to make and WF had committed to a low price in their "fancy extras" section. Needless to say they stopped making them pretty quickly and only made in small numbers in 1972. Very desirable amongst the WF fraternity.

Surprised that John sold his for a lot less. Always call me first John !!

Cheers,
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: w84it on April 09, 2013, 04:27:13 PM
A very nice weight and something I've not come across before.  I'll certainly be looking out for one.

I'm just wondering if it's right to call it a "marbrie"?    Did the Whitefriars factory describe it that way?  It's not my idea of a pure marbrie design - i stick to the design with symetrical loops, as defined by KevinH in an earlier thread:

"In the paperweight design it is usually a pulled pattern in four, or occasionally six, loops and normally with multi-coloured threads. The loops are worked to the top of the dome and capped with at least one millefiori cane to cover the join of the loop threads."

I know I'm pedantic, but the following link shows my idea of what a true marbrie should look like.  Peter Holmes also makes great marbries.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130867005201?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: Tony G on April 09, 2013, 05:03:27 PM
Hi,
      yes you're right. Officially listed only as a doorstop, it has been refered to as a marbrie by WF collectors for quite a while. This is probably a misuse of the term in the strict sense.
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: aa on April 09, 2013, 06:18:37 PM
I'm just wondering if it's right to call it a "marbrie"?   
I know I'm pedantic,

I would have described it as "trailed and feathered" but Whitefriars' collectors have their own lingo..
;-)
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: johnphilip on April 09, 2013, 06:36:08 PM
Sorry when I said Marbrie i was talking about the weight i sold ,  it wasn't Whitefriars (so calm down Tony i would have called you ) mine was not a big one just standard size , sorry for the confusion , you lot should stop drinking .
Was it a Ron Wilkie  one Tony ? Mustapha bin .
Title: Re: something special?
Post by: chriscooper on April 10, 2013, 08:05:03 PM
Thank you John it's always nice to know  your information  is  appreciated, after all a courteous thank you only takes a second. 

Chris