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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: Ingenexec on April 07, 2013, 10:28:45 PM

Title: Help id this Italian glass?
Post by: Ingenexec on April 07, 2013, 10:28:45 PM

Thanks So much for looking. My fiancée and I have been decluttering and came across a large matched set of crystal. Here's everything we know.

1. It's fairly old.
2. We have a very extensive set of it.
3. It looks like this!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/ingenexec/47E96A05-2A77-4181-AFBE-B17F26C39637-9988-00001C6E7553EEB7_zpsd85e579b.jpg

Please ask any questions you mot have, I would love to know what this is.

Title: Re: Help id this Italian crystal?
Post by: Frank on April 07, 2013, 11:48:10 PM

I guess the label tells all but pic is to small to read it.

Title: Re: Help id this Italian crystal?
Post by: Ivo on April 08, 2013, 06:47:11 AM

Pfui Frank, have some consideration for new arrivals and make then feel welcome on the GMB.

Welcome to the GMB. Not the best of news : I see

Made in Italy
DeCart
Decorazione Artistice

These are mechanically made glasses with an acid stain colouring and mechanical (?) cut pattern.  They may be from Naples, they may be from Empoli or they may be from Bormioli in Parma - I suspect the latter.  It is not crystal, it is glass. It is not from Murano. It is from the 1950s or 60s - and they are definitely wanting in quality.

This type of glass was popular as wedding presents just after the war - if you have any of that in the family, you have a date :-)

Title: Re: Help id this Italian crystal?
Post by: johnphilip on April 08, 2013, 08:03:20 AM

Hi Ingenexec welcome to the forum .When is the Wedding not 4TH JULY  jp ;D ;) :)

Title: Re: Help id this Italian crystal?
Post by: Ingenexec on April 08, 2013, 11:27:39 AM

Quote from: Ivo on April 08, 2013, 06:47:11 AM

A lot of extremely useful information!

My only thought about the hand-made vs machine made is that some of the fine cross-hatching extends beyond the diamond-shaped areas. It seems like someone accidentally engraved too far and that made me think hand-made, but at the same time  that could be an issue with the mold or something? If you know anything on the topic then you know more than I do.

Thanks again!

Title: Re: Help id this Italian crystal?
Post by: Ivo on April 08, 2013, 11:54:25 AM

It is not a mould issue - these are absolutely straightforward machine made and sold as blanks to the decorator company. This company then applied the staining and the cutting. How much handiwork is involved in the process escapes my insight - or how the hatching is applied precisely.

Title: Re: Help id this Italian crystal?
Post by: Ingenexec on April 08, 2013, 12:12:21 PM

Quote from: Ivo on April 08, 2013, 11:54:25 AM

It is not a mould issue - these are absolutely straightforward machine made and sold as blanks to the decorator company. This company then applied the staining and the cutting. How much handiwork is involved in the process escapes my insight - or how the hatching is applied precisely.

Ah. So still junk then?

Fair enough :) Thanks!

Title: Re: Help id this Italian crystal?
Post by: Anne on April 14, 2013, 06:21:49 PM

If usable then not junk, surely. Welcome to the board. :)