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Title: Vasart but by whom?
Post by: Roger H on April 25, 2013, 10:27:35 PM
Hi all, got this recently and I identify it as vasart ltd.  Looking  at the centre canes I thought there was a "V" in one of the complex canes, then I thought well its probably a distortion as sometimes happens upon collection of the setup.  I then carefully looked with a mag glass and the "V"  is made of 5 tiny canes , the third one of a different colour is at the bottom of the "V" consistently.   
       Could this be a signature cane of Vincent perhaps.   I do find this weight setup to be exceptionaly good for a vasart. 
      Any thoughts on this.
          Regards Roger.
Title: Re: Vasart but by whom?
Post by: tropdevin on April 26, 2013, 06:47:28 AM
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Hi Roger.  I'd vote for a malformed cane, and the 'V' being serendipity. There appear to be two sets of three similar canes in the centre of each complex cane.  I think the larger brown edged canes that they started with were not consistent throughout their length - you can see the centres of three are packed with small rods, and distorted to different degrees.

Alan
Title: Re: Vasart but by whom?
Post by: Roger H on April 26, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
Thanks Alan, you could well be correct.   Perhaps just wishfull thinking on my part, although somebody took a bit of time with this one, it doesn't seem the usual bread and butter production. I guess the only person to verify a maker here would be someone who was there at the time, and thats a long while ago. :-\
        Regards Roger.
Title: Re: Vasart but by whom?
Post by: Gary on April 26, 2013, 11:12:58 AM
. I guess the only person to verify a maker here would be someone who was there at the time, and thats a long while ago. :-\
        Regards Roger.
Dave Moir worked at the Vasart factory and is still working part time at John Deacons studio in Crieff.
Gary
Title: Re: Vasart but by whom?
Post by: KevinH on April 27, 2013, 12:52:10 PM
The image below should show what has happened to that cane.

Yes, it is a distortion.  Two of three larger inner canes show the apparent "V" shape, the third element - the lower one in my photo - shows an undistorted view. That actual cane is itself a 3+3 cane central group in white with a pale pink cogged coating.

I think the distortion occurred in the original pulling of the cane but not along its entire length. When the elements were bundled into the full complex cane, two of those elements had the distortion and one did not. When the full complex cane was stretched, the miniaturisation of the inner elements certainly appears to show two "V" shapes.

Looking closely at the "V", it is not just the bottom of the "v" that is a different colour cane, but also the two ends of the "v".  The undistorted example shows three pale blue canes and three dark canes.
Title: Re: Vasart but by whom?
Post by: Roger H on April 27, 2013, 07:31:22 PM
Yep, that makes sense. Well when I sell it at least I wont be misleading anyone. Muchas gracias Senor. Its been a long while since I've been to Spain, but if I sell it at a decent price I will add it to the holiday fund.
     Regards Roger.