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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: ardy on April 26, 2013, 12:12:43 AM
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Hi All bought this for Alison as she likes the colours. I thought it might be Japanese then on getting it I am not sure what the hell it is. Could be Chinese or eastern European.
Any ideas?
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I don't know what the hell it is either!
It appears to be well-made. The straps gently meld towards the top, the pulegoso seems good quality.
I *think* it has a completely flat polished base, but when I enlarge the pic all I get is a mass of pixels so I can' really tell.
But then the rim is a bit thick and unsophisticated, and the colours do seem rather bright. It is also quite substantial.
My guts are suspecting contemporary Chinese. The quality has improved vasty recently and they are also using some very sophisticated techniques now.
I think it will be lovely as a usable, practical flower vase . :)
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Thanks Sue and you could be right. The base is polished with a well ground indent but I could not get a clear photo of it. As you say the top is amateur but there are elements of good construction.
It stands about 12" (300mm) tall. It is the thickness of the top that made me think possibly Chinese and maybe that is the element that says it is not eastern Europe. If it is Chinese it's better than other stuff I have seen.
Great flower vase but if it gets broken for some reason I will not fold into the foetal position which I might do with some of my A. Seguso vases.
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I found this one - it's not identical but seems to have the bubbles and the brightly coloured bits in? maybe a 'range' ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/venetian-bubble-glass-vase-with-coloured-squares-/171026029689?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item27d1f21c79
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Thanks M - very similar and the same indented polished pontil. I have put it on the watch list but I bet it ain't venetian!
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Well-spotted M! 8)
No evidence for it being venetian, though. The colours are not very '50s/'60s are they? They look rather new to my eye.
That one looks to be finished off better at the top - it's certanly more elegant, but the pulegoso is not so fine.
I used to use a very loose rule-of-thumb for id-ing contemporary Chinese - although I do not think it is one that can be applied now because the quality and complexity has improved so much.
It was along the lines of "even if it's got some superior features, if they're mixed up with inferior features it is probably Chinese".
Is there any age-related wear to the base, Ardy?
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Hi Sue - there are scratches across the base but was that done by age or a coarse grind at the end? Who knows. I think it is second hand but not from the 50's or 60's.
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It would be good to get a comment from somebody who does know about Japanese glass. :)
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Hi Sue - I have one piece of Heniri? it's a large vase in Murano style with colours blended into it and between that piece and this piece there is daylight.
If there is someone who knows their Japanese glass I would like to hear what they have to say, and also to follow them, as the one piece we have is lovely.
Not as good as Archimede of course but gorgeous all the same.
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Is Kane not our "resident Japanese glass enthusiast"? :)
He's not here on a daily basis.
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The ribbing on the piece is very similar to Japanese output from the 60's/70's. Although I have not seen anything like the style in your piece before in Japanese Glass, especially with those bold colourful splotches on the piece in that colour way.
My gut feeling says that it may not be Japanese but could be a later Chinese piece from the 80's/90's in my opinion. The shape is quite elegant, but the colour combo seems out of place for Japanese Glass as by the late 60's they were making great glass that was comparable to Murano, and mostly till this day, still mistaken and listed/identified as Murano even by reputable dealers and dare I say, Antiques Roadshow!
What do you mean by indented base? The base shot is very pixelated and it is very hard to tell anything.
-Am studying again and working so don't have much time to come here :( Although I need to list some new SVdA pieces here for reference and some older ones. Will hopefully do that in the coming weeks. Also, if I can find the time, I will be making a PDF SVdA 'Catalogue' in my spare time which I will make available to the users here from my collection :)
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Also, feel free to PM me is any suspected Japanese Glass is listed here. It may take a week or more to respond but I will end up looking at it. I am slowing putting together labels of Japanese makers/info and organising my data slowly but it will take some time! It is a real mess!
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Thanks, Kane. It's very good to have your input.
Good luck with the studying, I hope you're enjoying it. :)
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Hi Kane thanks for that. I am sure you are right it is Chinese, the more I look at it the more it seems right. There is a slight imbalance and the thickness of the rim and a fairly small opening seem to point to it. Teh base is polished and has a circular polished indent. The ribbing is done well, and it works as a flower vase and as we spent very little on it, Alison is happy.
I have one piece of Japanese glass and I love it, http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,52461.msg297786.html#msg297786 glad you are doing some work on Japanese as I am impressed with this piece. Thanks a lot.
Can't seem to be able to PM on the site if you want to contact rthomas1 AT iprimus.com.au looking forward to speaking with you. (Mod email amended to prevent spam harvesters - change the AT to @ and close up the spaces.)
regards Ardy
PS where is that SvDA book? I think there are several still waiting on that one!
The ribbing on the piece is very similar to Japanese output from the 60's/70's. Although I have not seen anything like the style in your piece before in Japanese Glass, especially with those bold colourful splotches on the piece in that colour way.
My gut feeling says that it may not be Japanese but could be a later Chinese piece from the 80's/90's in my opinion. The shape is quite elegant, but the colour combo seems out of place for Japanese Glass as by the late 60's they were making great glass that was comparable to Murano, and mostly till this day, still mistaken and listed/identified as Murano even by reputable dealers and dare I say, Antiques Roadshow!
What do you mean by indented base? The base shot is very pixelated and it is very hard to tell anything.
-Am studying again and working so don't have much time to come here :( Although I need to list some new SVdA pieces here for reference and some older ones. Will hopefully do that in the coming weeks. Also, if I can find the time, I will be making a PDF SVdA 'Catalogue' in my spare time which I will make available to the users here from my collection :)
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Thanks, Kane. It's very good to have your input.
Good luck with the studying, I hope you're enjoying it. :)
Slightly chopin...:)
It is all online so no running to the other side of town after to work to get to class! It does make life a bit easier :)
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I think that book is a long way off :(
I might have my crappy PDF available before it is released ha ha...