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Title: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: rocco on May 03, 2013, 05:05:51 PM
Brockwitz carnival glass vase in marigold, "Sunflower and Diamonds" pattern, 6'' / 15.5 cm high.
An accidental purchase in a charity shop (I wasn't even sure it was pre WW2 carnival glass when I bought it, as the major part of carnival I see here is Indiana glass from the 1970s).

According to Glen's great website "scarce as hen's teeth" ;D >> Link (http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/UnusualVasesSUNFLRDIAMOND.html)

Michael
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: Glen on May 03, 2013, 05:44:35 PM
Congratulations! The diminutive size is indeed extremely scarce. We found ours in Vienna!  :o
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: rocco on May 03, 2013, 07:22:51 PM
Thank you Glen - so Vienna seems the place to hunt for these :D

Michael
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: Glen on May 03, 2013, 07:58:17 PM
Michael - yes! That is simply amazing. Vienna must be THE place. Perhaps we have the two parts of what was once a pair. I got mine from the Naschmarkt, on a Saturday morning about eight years ago.
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: rocco on May 04, 2013, 09:22:23 AM
That must have been an exciting day for you, Glen!
Naschmarkt fleamarket is great, I go there every Saturday morning...

I found mine a few weeks ago in a big Viennese  charity shop, at 1,- Euro I couldn't leave it there (though I had no idea what it was then).
Funny thing is that it looks like some parts of the base ring are "missing"; but it feels smooth, so could it be a production flaw rather then a damage?

Michael
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: Glen on May 04, 2013, 12:56:05 PM
We made it to the Naschmarkt on two memorable occasions (both were during long weekends in Vienna—wonderful city!) We couldn't believe it when we found the small size Sunflower & Diamond vase. Your purchase was amazing. What a lucky find!

It's interesting what you say about the base. It has a domed base, with the outer section being ground. I've taken a quick pic of it for you. (edited to add: yours looks exactly right in your photo above).
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: rocco on May 04, 2013, 07:01:35 PM
Thanks for taking the time to take a pic, Glen!
Unfortunately mine is on "display" at work, so no chance to take a pic before next week; but the base looks like yours, with just several flaws similar to the one close to the camera in yours, just a lot bigger (even makes the vase wobble a little); but as there are no sharp edges, and not the slightest damage visible above the base, I assumed that it was probably rather a production issue than a chip.

BTW, I will need your help again, as I aquired a nice carnival lidded jar today, but just cannot find the pattern anywhere.
Will take pics as soon as I have the time!
edit: just had a stroll through your wonderful website, and found it: Hortensja Poland! "Sultan" pattern.

Michael
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: Glen on May 04, 2013, 08:44:59 PM

just had a stroll through your wonderful website, and found it: Hortensja Poland! "Sultan" pattern.

Michael

Yes! Excellent. Congratulations - that's a beautiful piece.
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: rocco on May 05, 2013, 12:05:27 PM
After lookig at hundreds of patterns of vintage and recent carnival glass, I almost gave up; then I looked through the "collectors' facts" chapter on your site -- and there it was :) >> Link (http://www.thistlewoods.net/Sultan.html)

And yes, it is a beautiful piece; as my example looks brand new, I first thought it could be contemporary carnival...

So thanks again, Glen, for sharing so generously your knowledge and discoveries!

Michael
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: Glen on May 05, 2013, 04:09:55 PM
Thank you, Michael. And what a beauty your Sultan is. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: rocco on August 24, 2013, 02:34:01 PM
Yet another 16 cm version of Brockwitz' "Sunflower and Diamond" pattern came my way today.
They seem to have been exclusively exported to Vienna ;D

Slightly different iridescence, more golden yellow.
And again the same flaws to the base like in my first one (base pics of both attached)

Michael
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: Glen on August 24, 2013, 04:43:31 PM
That's astonishing! And it's also fascinating. Thanks so much for sharing that info. (And congratulations  :))
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: rocco on August 25, 2013, 09:45:07 AM
Thank you, Glen! :)
I think there may have been issues with the mould or similar, leading to these flaws.
I cannot imagine they are damages...

I found yet another nice carnival vase today which I am unable to identify; so I may need your help again in the near future ;-)

Michael
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: Glen on August 25, 2013, 01:06:19 PM
I feel that they simply features of pressed glass - as you suggest, a mould issue.

I'm looking forward to seeing your vase "find". I hope I can help with it  :)

Glen
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: rocco on August 25, 2013, 02:40:42 PM
Thank you, Glen!
A little more research (and your fabulous website of course) finally revealed the ID -- pinwheel pattern by Hortensja glassworks, 8'' version. http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Hortensja_PINWHEELcylindervase.html (http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Hortensja_PINWHEELcylindervase.html)
I thought Hortensja was quite probable from the beginning due to the multicolour iridescence (lots of pink, turquoise and blue, totally different to that of Brockwitz). But I couldn't find it first.
Then it took some time to find out it is not Sowerby. ;D

I attach a pic, which unfortunately doesn't show the iridescence very well.

Michael
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: Glen on August 25, 2013, 03:42:20 PM
Excellent acquisition! What a beauty. Yes, that's the Hortensja version.

Congratulations again :-)
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: rocco on August 25, 2013, 04:07:59 PM
Thanks again, Glen!
As my carnival glass collection seems to be growing quite a bit at the moment, I will put your books on my Christmas wishlist ;)

Michael
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: colink on August 26, 2013, 08:49:28 PM
Fascinating now i know where im going on my next holiday ha ha ha
Title: Re: Brockwitz Carnival 'Sunflower and Diamonds', 6'' version
Post by: colink on August 27, 2013, 07:28:27 PM
Glens book are worth every penny