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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: cubby01 on May 31, 2013, 03:37:18 AM
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This was an inexpensive find that had such an intriguing surface treatment that I had to take home with me. Sadly I'm at a loss trying to identify it.
The outer surface was textured prior to the scalloped bits being cut away. It looks like possibly two techniques applied in order to get that finish but I don't really have a good idea of how the larger pattern was done. The affect, to me, looks like sea turtle skin. The top rim is nicely ground, beveled and polished. It has an ever-so-slight pink hue. No maker mark or signature - which really kinda surprises me. there is a good deal of natural wear on the base which leads me to believe it's at least early 1900s.
Bowl is 9-1/4" across, 3" tall. The flat base is approx 3-1/4" diameter.
Thanks for any help on this one.
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Bumpity bump. Anyone?
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Hi folks. Hopefully 3rd time is a charm. Anyone seen anything like it I can use to aid in an identification?
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Would this be the same technique you think?
Add's in french....no makers' mark unfortunately...
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/ART-DECO-VASE-MODELE-GEOMETRIQUE-/251413728573?clk_rvr_id=569258686800
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Thank you Anne,
I don't believe it's similar enough. The one in the auction listing looks to me to be a more common crackle glass technique.
I thought it was possibly French but now I'm starting to think it might be Italian, possibly Murano.
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Yes, difficult to see on the images, at a first glance i thought it looked similar...i do believe that it might be french though, 'Ecole de Nancy'...
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It looks like the texture is a combination of processes, first crizzled - the hot glass plunged into water to introduce myriads of cracks. After reheating and blowing you end up with a finish to the surface of the glass just like yours, then it looks as if an acid treatment was used to get the small spots.
Many glassmakers have used variations of this technique, the geometric vase Anne linked to looks crizzled but it looks like it would not have been reheated which leaves a 'sharper' look and feel to the crizzling.
Loetz's version, Mimosa: http://www.kralik-glass.com/loetz-images/mimosa/lmim4.jpg
Michael Harris used the technique in his Crizzle Stones: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?topic=19092.0
John
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Peill & Putzler are known for glass using unusual combinations of surface textures, but having said that, my guts feel French is the first direction to be looking - just from the overall impression I get.
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Or it could simply be a pattern within a mold, stippled/crackled pattern within a mold section & other sections no pattern at all. We had several U.S. companies that had these types of patterned pieces with names like Stipple Dart, Scrabble, Craquel, Jack Frost, etc. in the 30s where some areas were crackled & scrubbed looking while other areas were not.
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I don't think it was made in a mould to produce the texture - there are bubbles in the crizzle-y bits, sort of air trapping.
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It looks like the texture is a combination of processes, first crizzled <...> then it looks as if an acid treatment was used to get the small spots.
John
Thank you John. To me, that's exactly what it looks like has been done. 'Crizzled' is a term I had not associated with this technique. (I think crizzling may have another meaning in reference to glass, a type of progressive deterioration.) I can see how the term is applied here. The finish on the bowl is somewhat close to what I'd call 'crackle' finish but not quite.
I don't think it was made in a mould to produce the texture - there are bubbles in the crizzle-y bits, sort of air trapping.
That's correct Sue. No mould. It was definitely blown and cut. And yes some bubbles are trapped in the lacy lines.
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Been trawling the recesses of my brain for the correct name for this process.
(Dipping the hot gather in cold water to create this surface texture, before reblowing)
I believe it is actually prima vera.
http://www.glassfacts.info/indexefb4.html?fid=359
Crizzling is the name for very old glass which has sort of jig-sawed itself into tiny bits with cracks, but was the name used by Michael Harris for this technique when he used it at Mdina and IoWSG.
Unfortunately, having spent most of my glass time concentrating on Mr. Harris and all his connections, crizzling is the word I automatically use for this surface treatment - whether on the surface or inside a piece. :-[
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Crackle fits nicely.