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Title: Registered Design Lookup Requests - Rd. No 355232
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 06, 2013, 06:30:09 AM
Registered Design Number: 355232

Date/Year (if known): 26 March 1900

Link to topic on the board about the item (if there is one)

I know who (John Ford) but I want to know what it is please
Title: Re: Registered Design Lookup Requests - Rd. No 355232
Post by: Paul S. on June 08, 2013, 09:18:54 AM
appears there isn't a link then to a Board topic regarding Rd. No 355232.

I have pix of the shape of this item, plus some of the text, and will post later today, hopefully.      I imagine it to be a type of flower suppport/frog - although the shape looks a little odd - the elevation is a bit like a squashed doughnut, although the plan is certainly round, but annoyingly the archives don't give a description of its intended use, or size.       Ford appear to have been manufacturers.     
Presumably I'll have to post the pix here as well.         What is your interest with this one Christine, do you have an example? :)
Title: Re: Registered Design Lookup Requests - Rd. No 355232
Post by: Paul S. on June 08, 2013, 03:58:06 PM
thanks Anne.                             National Archive details are......... BT 50/385 for the Representations......... and BT 51/103 for the Register.

Presumably Thompson was Ford's patent and registering agent in Glasgow.             The full wording in picture four reads........."John Ford & Company  -  Royal Holyrood Glassworks, in the city and county of Edinburgh - Manufacturers".

Didn't think there were such things as counties north of the border - thought they were all 'shires'

Contrary to what happens often when registered as CLASS 4, this one wasn't missed by either Thompson or Slack. 

So, for what purpose was this made........?? :)     
Title: Re: Registered Design Lookup Requests - Rd. No 355232
Post by: Anne on June 08, 2013, 07:45:14 PM
Nice wee tablet commemorating Royal Holyrood Glassworks here: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2887234 and the Edinburgh Museum has some examples of their work too: LINK (http://www.edinburghmuseums.org.uk/Venues/Museum-of-Edinburgh/Collections/Decorative-Art/Decorative-Art-at-the-Museum-of-Edinburgh/Edinburgh-and-Canongate-Glass) and the BBC has a photo of this fabulous epergne: LINK (http://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/objects/w2uy1HAHQv-ssFafvHihsQ)

I wonder if the piece in the RD above was a bulb growing bowl? We've seen similar in pottery on the pottery board.  Christine, do you have one of these and would it fit that use size-wise?
Title: Re: Registered Design Lookup Requests - Rd. No 355232
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 09, 2013, 06:57:21 PM
There was one on ebay in uranium glass that I was thinking of buying. I was wondering if it was for crocuses and was hoping the design reg would say. It's not big enough for hyacinths
Title: Re: Registered Design Lookup Requests - Rd. No 355232
Post by: Anne on June 09, 2013, 07:52:01 PM
The pottery one was a smaller one like for crocus, Christine, so entirely possible., Would be good to find proof though. Might it be worth an email to the Edinburgh Museum who seem to have some info, records, etc?
Title: Re: Registered Design Lookup Requests - Rd. No 355232
Post by: Paul S. on June 09, 2013, 08:00:49 PM
would it be right to assume this item must be hollow in order to qualify for a bulb holder - otherwise it couldn't hold water - or is that not necessary??
Title: Re: Registered Design Lookup Requests - Rd. No 355232
Post by: Anne on June 09, 2013, 10:27:36 PM
The ceramic ones are, Paul, so if this is one it should be too. The hollow holds water and gives space for the roots.
Title: Re: Registered Design Lookup Requests - Rd. No 355232
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 10, 2013, 06:32:02 AM
It was a bowl and I missed buying  :(