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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Otis Orlando on July 04, 2013, 01:41:57 AM
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Hi, purchased the unusual looking wine decanter as part of a job lot yesterday. The reason why I say unusual, is solely on the basis that I have never seen green (uranium) and amber in a final end product. The bowl of the decanter is octagonal in design, even though this may not be clearly visible on pictures. The eight seams are approx. 1.2cm in width and concaved from shoulder to an inch to where the base foot meets.......................... Well, I say concaved, as this is what the eye's sees, but to touch, there is no sign of indentation. When I place my finger in the neck of the bottle and feel around the sides, each seam can be felt as it protrudes within the inner glass area of the glass. I'm at a complete loss with this one. Can anyone help me identify this decanter and period. Any help appreciated.
Height inc. stopper 22.6cm
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Don't know only ever seen mine until now and never managed to find out. http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=734
The seams are not seams, they are what is called optic ribbing, i.e., you can see it but not feel it on the outside. It's also engraved not etched.
It's a spirit decanter and 1930s I would guess. It might be American; this colour combo was fairly common there in the 1930s. Or might might be Continental European, as the glasses have ground and polished rims
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I'd agree with the suggestion of approximate date, but in view of the size of the opening, and two tone colouring - am wondering if this might have been part of a cocktail set. Definitely wheel engraved decoration.
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Maybe but it's not a cocktail shaker
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you're probably right............. do we assume that all 'shakers' came with a metal top??
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Sold similar, but not as gorgeous as this Stuart one. Also Stromberg and Orefors signed 1930s designs described as Deco cocktail shakers though these had a pouring lip at each side but with similar glass stoppers.
Not my thing Paul so don't quote me :) but just saying what I see.
http://gorgeousglass.org.uk/collections/getrecord/DMUSE_BH2951/
http://www.thrivedecor.bigcartel.com/product/rare-signed-orrefors-scandinavian-glass-cocktail-shaker-with-female-nude-archer
Chris
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Perhaps it is for cocktails perhaps it isn't. ??? I thought the lid was generally a measure though. This is just a sealed stopper
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The colour combo of uranium and amber is quite common here, although usually with a lighter uranium tone.
Not much help I´m afraid... :-\
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I'll throw in another option. In the U.S. we manufactured very large oil/vinegar/salad dressing bottles for the table. These were larger than the standard 7" variety. Color combo is not unusual for U.S. from the mid 20s to mid 30s.
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Aah, but mine has matching glasses...
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thanks Chris - very nice pieces in your links.
Looking in the books, it appeared that cocktail items were often similar to this with the inverted baluster shape, and the large diameter opening seemed unlike a standard decanter. The pouring lip is also a feature of cocktail pieces, I believe.
However, the overall shape is probaly found on many 1920's - 1930's drinks related items and, it seems, on large condiment containers. :)
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Hi all, well, I would have never of thought, mine might be a cocktail shaker and trust it to be you to have the glasses that go with it too ;D. Thanks for the info. Christine. 'Optic ribbing' sounds better. I will have to remember that one. Due to the uncertainty of origin, could Germany be a possible route to go down also? Even though this decanter looks nothing like mine I am just curious as to reasons for likely it being American ::).
http://www.pullmangallery.com/item/26/49/1654/Twelve-sided-glass-cocktail-shaker,-1930s
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It might be American; this colour combo was fairly common there in the 1930s.
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Thanks for you help. Appreciated!