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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: alpha on July 18, 2013, 01:38:28 PM
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Is this the same weight that sold a couple of months ago?
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Baccarat-1848-presse-papier-sulfure-paper-press-nombreuses-silhouettes-animales-/200943459717
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looks like its had a re-polish
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Okay so the weight came up again and I was top bidder.
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Baccarat-1848-presse-papier-sulfure-paper-press-nombreuses-silhouettes-animales-/141356318454?pt=FR_JG_C%C3%A9ramiques_Verre&hash=item20e97e3ef6
Any one here been a prior bidder. Just wondering what happened in your transaction as the seller is insisting on a wire transfer for payment. Seller has had problems with her Paypal account, and won't do Paypal. I've offered to have someone local pick it up and pay her then in cash. The wire transfer bank is in Greece, Seller is in Paris. Seller has only one feedback as a seller and maybe 10 as a buyer. All feedbacks are older. Doesn't look safe to do as far as I am concerned, but still wondering as it's a beautiful paperweight. Seller's name is Catherine Wernerschmit, 1, paqssage du champ aloup, 13000 Paris, France.
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Hi Andy
I happened to capture some of the eBay images when this paperweight came up before....and have now found them. It is not only the same paperweight, but the same images.....which would disconcert me. If the seller actually has the paperweight - rather than just the images - they should be able to give you a new image with it sitting on a copy of today's paper.
Alan
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Hi Andy,
I would be very suspicious as the address does not exist. The postcode 13000 cannot be in Paris (a postcode in 13000 signifies an address in the Marseille region - 500 km from the capital...). To be in Paris, it would need a postcode beginning in 750 + the 2 digits of the relevant arrondissement/district.
However, there is a 'passage du champ a loup' in Paris in the 18th arrondissement (i.e. postcode 75018).
Of course, it could be a genuine error...
SophieB
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Do not EVER pay by wire transfer. It will be almost certainly be a scam. Almost certainly a hacked account which the "new owner" uses to post items using sold items pictures as a con, and the item will never arrive with you able to do nothing....
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Do not EVER pay by wire transfer. It will be almost certainly be a scam.
I have to agree, a request for a wire transfer should set any and all alarm bells ringing.
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That is the same conclusion I have come to - but I really was hoping to get that weight.
Alan- do you have a print out of the July 2013 listing from last summer and was it the same seller as now?
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One of the giveaways I've always found is to look at feedback dates. This ones last feedback is in June last year, so I wouldn't go near it. The 'hackers' target accounts which aren't in use, just like this one......
If anyone can work out what else they've 'sold' recently that would be great, but I can't see the completed listings option?
Ian
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Hi Andy
Sorry - I only captured 5 images from the advert, not the full spread. I do not have other information.
I suspect the 'hacked account' and using old images is the source of the problem. About 8 years ago I nearly fell for a 'Bacchus' scam - I won it, but was uneasy - especially when the guy (in the US) wanted Western Union money transfer to 'his sister' at some different address. I offered 50% up front, 50% on delivery - and he was desparate to agree - so I ditched the deal and reported it to the US authorities. I found out shortly afterwards he was using auction images for a weight that Nancy Alfano had put through an auction house a year before!
Alan
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One of the giveaways I've always found is to look at feedback dates. This ones last feedback is in June last year, so I wouldn't go near it. The 'hackers' target accounts which aren't in use, just like this one......
If anyone can work out what else they've 'sold' recently that would be great, but I can't see the completed listings option?
Ian
Two items in the last 30 days, (as far back as eBay goes on a seller search:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&since=31&userid=catherine2383&include=0&rows=50&sort=3&completed=1 (http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&since=31&userid=catherine2383&include=0&rows=50&sort=3&completed=1)
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I can no longer view the auction. Maybe eBay has recognized the fraud and removed the listing.
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I can no longer view the auction. Maybe eBay has recognized the fraud and removed the listing.
If you clicked the link in the first post, it's from a year ago.
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Works now. When I clicked on your link for Catherine2383's past auctions, it shows two item numbers. But when I click on 141356318454, I get a message that the required resources are not available. But Alpha's original link works. Thanks.
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If you Google the item number 141356318454 which is Alpha's current purchase, the Google reference turns up a discussion (in French) in which a buyer is complaining about non-delivery. The actual discussion on eBay boards has been edited to remove reference to the item number and the seller, but may be relevant.
"Comment puis-je signaler un vendeur qui semblerait ...
communaute.ebay.fr/t5/Confiance.../2274763
Cette personne m'a "vendu" l'objet no.141356318454 il y a 1 an et je ne l'ai jamais recu, malgré l'encaissement de l'argent. Merci pour votre aide. Signaler un ..."
http://communaute.ebay.fr/t5/Confiance-et-s%C3%A9curit%C3%A9/Comment-puis-je-signaler-un-vendeur-qui-semblerait-prendre-les/qaq-p/2274763 (http://communaute.ebay.fr/t5/Confiance-et-s%C3%A9curit%C3%A9/Comment-puis-je-signaler-un-vendeur-qui-semblerait-prendre-les/qaq-p/2274763)
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So the seller is a serial offender...and maybe never had the object to start with. If so, where did the images used in the adverts come from? An earlier eBay auction that none of us spotted?
Alan