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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: agincourt17 on July 25, 2013, 10:32:48 AM
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A white opaque pressed glass "double shell light" by Edward Moore & Co., South Shields, RD 107316 (registered 5 September 1888). Probably designed as a stand for twin night lights rather than as a relish or preserve dish.
The clear flint glass examples are not uncommon, but this is the first time I have seen an example in coloured glass.
According to Angus McDonald of the South Shields Museum, Edward Moore seems to have produced very few pieces in coloured glass, so do any GMB members have photos of coloured Edward Moore pieces to show, please?
(Permission for the re-use of the white opaque piece on the GMB granted by cleanglassdream).
Fred.
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According to Angus McDonald of the South Shields Museum, Edward Moore seems to have produced very few pieces in coloured glass
That actually seems quite unlikely, as coloured glass was all the fashion. Perhaps more accurately they produced mostly colourless glass
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=430
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=811
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,46854.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,29912.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1416.0.html
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Thank you, Christine.
Fred.
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Hello Fred............what is the provenance for your description? I'm not in your league re pressed material, but if I had to guess would have this down as something to do with table/culinary use rather than part of a light feature?? I'm tempted to look at the Kew description when I next visit.
What little I know of night lights, seems to recall that they always had detachable covers/hoods of some sort. :)
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meant to add............. these make me think of the format of Continental salts - which, for some reason I know nothing of, so frequently appear to have been made in conjoined pairs. :) Did the Continentals always use twice the quantity of salt compared to us Brits. ;D
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They might just have had something else in the other side... pepper?
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Jolly large salts, Paul - 9¾ x 5 inches - each side would take a very large handful.
Jenny Thompson gives the design description as “double shell light” on page 21 of “the Identification of English Pressed Glass 1842-1908”.
There has also been a discussion at
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8511.msg71292.html#msg71292 (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8511.msg71292.html#msg71292)
about a Greener RD 176239 piece being used as a nightlight holder / stand.
I will add RD 107316 to the GMB RD look-up list, Paul, and would be grateful if you could check the description at Kew, please.
Fred.
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thanks Fred..... and who am I to question Ms Jenny Thompson :) would assume the lady was simply repeating the wording from the Kew records - anyway will have a look at the books just to satisfy my curiosity, although seems an unlikely open sort of design for a night light. Agree that size is a bit big for salt/pepper - jam might have been more appropriate.
I wonder why Thompson puts the description in brackets?? Will let you know the outcome. :)
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just as an aside, I see tha Silber & Fleming have very similar shaped pieces (examples with both double and triple dishes) - and described as a 'Fruit Dish'. Size of each dish is also very similar - S. & F. quote 'length of dish about 10"'.
Difference being that the book examples are in iced (frosted) and crackle only, but similarity would suggest same use.
Page 179 if you have the book.
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uhmmm.......... I misunderstood what you meant by the size Fred.........just discovered I have one of these in the shed (in clear) - each bowl is 5" x 4".
I still can't see a squat little candle sitting in these things, the bottom is very heavily ribbed, and too small for fruit. Would do nicely for sauces tho.............hopefully will have the answer tomorrow.
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unfortunately, the Kew Representations book shows only an image of the design - no wording that I could see. The Register book was unavailable this morning - presumably being used by someone else - so unable to check...........although from experience the Registers don't carry descriptions of use - only details of the Registrant, CLASS, dates, and any notes on extensions of period.
So remains a mystery as to the use of the word 'light'. :-\
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Thank you for your efforts, Paul.
Whatever the description, we use ours for pickles & jams anyway.
Fred.
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gosh - you are posh Fred - are there people who decant their preserves, still .......... and I bet you use a butter dish, sugar bowl, and don't pour wine from a bottle ;) ;)
When I was at Kew this morning, amazing to see the reams of Sowerby Registrations for butter dishes and sugar bowls - such refined manners the Victorians had.
Looking at this thing, it struck me how impracticle the edges are - almost flat and with a sharp edge........mine has some nibbles and a chip - so typical of what happens to those fine edges. Also a little unusual, I thought, with the Rd. No. showing on both bowls.